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stroker kits?
Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:01 PM
any one no where i can get a stroker kit for a 95 sunfire.......?

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Re: stroker kits?
Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:17 PM
i didnt know they made stroker kits for 2.2's ...for that matter ive never seen a stroker that was "kit"..but good luck


Re: stroker kits?
Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:26 PM
i mean lik a kit with the cam shaft, springs, rods, pistons,etc. lik you can find for almost any honda

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Re: stroker kits?
Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:32 PM
Check out importperformanceparts.net...they have all kinds of parts
Re: stroker kits?
Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:33 PM
These are J-bodies, not hondas.

I've never seen a stroker kit for the 2.2 let me try asking aroung.



Re: stroker kits?
Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:44 PM
there was a stroker kit for the 2.2 but it destroyed more engines then it helped.



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Re: stroker kits?
Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:50 PM
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Re: stroker kits?
Sunday, March 19, 2006 7:20 PM
the only stroker i know of is for the 2.3 nad it is FAR from a "kit" ..it needs alot of modifications....thats why i say ive never seen a "kit"


Re: stroker kits?
Sunday, March 19, 2006 7:21 PM
If you have a 2.3, you can 'stroke' it out with the crank from a 2.4.

http://www.ny-jbodies.org/library/engine/2.3/quad4tricks.htm


Re: stroker kits?
Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:04 PM
The stroker kit for the 2.2 was sold by dragevolution and 99redz24 is right they sucked the high hardone. otherwise there is no one currently marketing a stroker hit for the ln2 motors that i'm aware of...




Re: stroker kits?
Sunday, March 19, 2006 9:15 PM
Mitch Davis wrote:If you have a 2.3, you can 'stroke' it out with the crank from a 2.4.

http://www.ny-jbodies.org/library/engine/2.3/quad4tricks.htm

to a NICE 2.6L with a small bit of boring as well. then slap on the M90 S/C w/18psi and pray to the Gods that the tranny and front end holds on. <- I'll let you know if it does




Re: stroker kits?
Monday, March 20, 2006 3:10 AM
Do they have stroker kits for the ecotec?



Re: stroker kits?
Monday, March 20, 2006 7:38 AM
Jason Kronstain wrote:any one no where i can get a stroker kit for a 95 sunfire.......?

The S10's 2.2L has a stroker crank available from http://dragevolution2200.com/Evolution_Store_S10_Engine_Parts.html

their site is currently down... but I checked in some s10 forums and it seems REALLY popular and loved.

Check out this thread:
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18989

There are quite afew others. The crank seems very reliable, and strokes the motor to 2.4L On the S10 2.2L motor is gave 145 hp 160 lb/ft...just the stroker, no other mods. Granted, everything above the head is different on the S10... I would expect similar gains to a jbody. Probably quite abit more with head and cam work.



Re: stroker kits?
Monday, March 20, 2006 10:08 AM
TurboEcotec5spdSwap wrote:Do they have stroker kits for the ecotec?


Everything GM ecotec part

includes everything you need. It will decrease your displacement to 2.0litres




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Re: stroker kits?
Monday, March 20, 2006 12:23 PM
IamRascal wrote:
TurboEcotec5spdSwap wrote:Do they have stroker kits for the ecotec?


[URL=http://www.gmgoodwrench.com/perfpartsjsp/partlist.jsp?cat=9284§ion=pp]Everything GM ecotec part[/URL]

includes everything you need. It will decrease your displacement to 2.0litres


So you'd be destroking the motor. Kind of pointless unless you plan to boost in a big way.



Re: stroker kits?
Monday, March 20, 2006 12:41 PM
TurboEcotec5spdSwap wrote:Do they have stroker kits for the ecotec?

Yes, the new factory 2.4 vvt motors are the same bottom end, and you could use of those cranks.



Re: stroker kits?
Monday, March 20, 2006 12:43 PM
Chuck Norris Approved Evil Cav wrote:
Jason Kronstain wrote:any one no where i can get a stroker kit for a 95 sunfire.......?

The S10's 2.2L has a stroker crank available from http://dragevolution2200.com/Evolution_Store_S10_Engine_Parts.html

their site is currently down... but I checked in some s10 forums and it seems REALLY popular and loved.

Check out this thread:
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18989

There are quite afew others. The crank seems very reliable, and strokes the motor to 2.4L On the S10 2.2L motor is gave 145 hp 160 lb/ft...just the stroker, no other mods. Granted, everything above the head is different on the S10... I would expect similar gains to a jbody. Probably quite abit more with head and cam work.


everything above the head? lol so, you me a diff valve cover? I'm just busting your balls man lol... S10 is the same except manifolds, and accessory placement, and also oil pickup and pan.

Last time anyone on the .org even tried a stroker from drag evolution was before i was even a member here, so for all we know they could have drastically improved since then. BUt the other thing is that a lot of those guys on the S10 forum sound like a bunch of morons..... "Stroker proven and more reilable than turbo" ?? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhtttttt... I'd like more info on the stroker, but the site appears to be more than down, its disappeared....




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Re: stroker kits?
Monday, March 20, 2006 12:53 PM
Lol... Don't forget the argument of "If you beat someone, would you rather tell them you have a 2.2 or a 2.4"... Wow. I read that thread and I now feel less intelligent because of it.



Re: stroker kits?
Monday, March 20, 2006 2:00 PM
ln2johnny wrote:Lol... Don't forget the argument of "If you beat someone, would you rather tell them you have a 2.2 or a 2.4"... Wow. I read that thread and I now feel less intelligent because of it.


yeah, hadn't gotten to that part of the thread when i posted..... to be absolutely honest though, even as much as i love the ohv.... when own an S10, its pretty stupid to bore/stroke a 2200 when you want more displacment, when a 4.3 or V8 is just a set of mounts, and ecu, and a wiring harness away.... J-bodies are light enough where the 2200's max power is enough for decent numbers.... In a 3500+ lbs pickup, you're better off with something with a higher power potential if you want to race it...

But anyway, enough of my off topic rant




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Re: stroker kits?
Monday, March 20, 2006 2:42 PM
Bingo!! One of the kids I went to school with took a base '97 Sonoma, yanked out the LN2, and stuck in a crate engine from Summit Racing. 383 stroker or something nuts like that. Seeing a built, carb'd small block under the hood of a late model Sonoma was frighteningly amusing for me.



Re: stroker kits?
Tuesday, March 21, 2006 8:59 AM
Scarab (Jersey Jay 1.8T) wrote:
Chuck Norris Approved Evil Cav wrote:
Jason Kronstain wrote:any one no where i can get a stroker kit for a 95 sunfire.......?

The S10's 2.2L has a stroker crank available from http://dragevolution2200.com/Evolution_Store_S10_Engine_Parts.html

their site is currently down... but I checked in some s10 forums and it seems REALLY popular and loved.

Check out this thread:
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18989

There are quite afew others. The crank seems very reliable, and strokes the motor to 2.4L On the S10 2.2L motor is gave 145 hp 160 lb/ft...just the stroker, no other mods. Granted, everything above the head is different on the S10... I would expect similar gains to a jbody. Probably quite abit more with head and cam work.


everything above the head? lol so, you me a diff valve cover? I'm just busting your balls man lol... S10 is the same except manifolds, and accessory placement, and also oil pickup and pan.

Last time anyone on the .org even tried a stroker from drag evolution was before i was even a member here, so for all we know they could have drastically improved since then. BUt the other thing is that a lot of those guys on the S10 forum sound like a bunch of morons..... "Stroker proven and more reilable than turbo" ?? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhtttttt... I'd like more info on the stroker, but the site appears to be more than down, its disappeared....


I checked afew s10 forums, and anyone who was using a turbo was running 4-5 psi, with no intercooler, or fuel mods.

But I recieved a email from a S10 owner with that crank, and he uses a 100 wet shot on it, with bolt ons, but no head work... and he says he's been running that setup for four years with no problem, and pulls low thirteens at the track.

I should recieve an email later today with the specs, dyno results, and track times.




Re: stroker kits?
Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:55 PM
Sounds interesting, can't wait to read more about it.



Re: stroker kits?
Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:05 PM
"stroker" is wehn you increasse displacement.

and making the stroke shorter when boosting is actually better. engine is alot stronger.


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Re: stroker kits?
Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:28 PM
TORONTO CAVALIER wrote:"stroker" is wehn you increasse displacement.

and making the stroke shorter when boosting is actually better. engine is alot stronger.



Umm back to basics.


Let's use SBC's for example.

Starting out with a standard 350 SBC.

4.000" Bore x 3.480" Stroke

A "stroker" kit for the 350 is using a 400 SBC's crank. Which gives us a longer stroke (length the piston travels in the cylinder), yielding low-end torque.

4.030" Bore x 3.750" Stroke orrr... 4.000" Bore by 3.800" Stroke ('00, "HT 383", Gen.I truck crate motor)

Now, let's de-stroke the 350 with a crank from the 307 BBC. This gives us a shorter stroke, meaning the pistons travel less, which means we can wind up the motor faster. This gives up high-end HP, and with balancing can achieve RPM's well above what the 350 can do.

4.000" Bore x 3.25" Stroke.


Re: stroker kits?
Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:29 PM
the 307 is an SBC, not a BBC of course. Typo.


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