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2200 timing set?
Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:55 PM
Are there any aftermarket or swapable timming sets for the 2200? Im putting a new cam and head on so i might as well look ey?

Is there a double roller set like the ones avaliable for the 3.1?







Re: 2200 timing set?
Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:14 AM
no and you suck =D





Re: 2200 timing set?
Wednesday, October 26, 2005 12:14 AM
what a punk






Re: 2200 timing set?
Wednesday, October 26, 2005 5:22 AM
Phlatcav wrote:Are there any aftermarket or swapable timming sets for the 2200? Im putting a new cam and head on so i might as well look ey?

Is there a double roller set like the ones avaliable for the 3.1?


Yes, there is! See this post about 2/3rds down page 2(July 11). HotRodV6 asks about a better timing set and the discussion coninues from there, including part numbers and instructions from GM.





Re: 2200 timing set?
Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:34 AM
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






Re: 2200 timing set?
Wednesday, October 26, 2005 11:55 AM
thats alot of info and very hard to find out where and how to get the parts and make them work....

NEW THREAD ON THIS PLEASE






Re: 2200 timing set?
Monday, October 31, 2005 11:27 PM
if you go to your local parts store have them look up or cross referance Cloyes Part Number C3060

That will get you the 1.8L double roller chain and the crank and cam gears.

But like said in the other thread its not a direct bolt on, but only minor work is needed.


Mike

1992 GMC Sonoma GT #492. Oh, Its just a stock V6!

1999 Cavalier Coupe, daily driver, 2200/M5. Mods and pics are in my registry.
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Re: 2200 timing set?
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 7:36 PM
Yeah, make sure to download the GM directions from (I think) PJ's server (link in 1.7:1 roller rocker thread).
Also, the NAPA and advanced auto sets have been proven correct, but the AA set comes with the tensioner (if you want to call it that). Something that didn't apply when GM wrote the directions, but will have to be done with the newer engines is machining the cam gear's mounting hole out a bit (not a big deal, just make sure to have it done while you're at the shop .



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better a delay than a disaster.
Re: 2200 timing set?
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:15 PM
and i plan on it

what is the part number for advanced auto parts?






Re: 2200 timing set?
Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:15 PM
I just realized....

Will the timing marks on the gears match like the ones on the 2200?






Re: 2200 timing set?
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 12:06 AM
Do we need to use the sprockets from the 1.8L or will the double roller chain work with the current sprockets? I know double rollers are supposed to be better, but I wasn't sure if they used a different pattern.




Re: 2200 timing set?
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 7:00 AM
Zach wrote:Do we need to use the sprockets from the 1.8L or will the double roller chain work with the current sprockets? I know double rollers are supposed to be better, but I wasn't sure if they used a different pattern.

It DEFINATELY won't work with the stock gears. If you check out the pics I put up in the other thread you should be able to see the differences (if they're still there...haven't checked).

PhlatCav,:
'belt tensioner' - PA7441298
95137
'timing set'-PA7441173
93060



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Re: 2200 timing set?
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:17 AM
yes the timing marks on the 1.8L gears and the 2200 gears are in the same location.


Mike

1992 GMC Sonoma GT #492. Oh, Its just a stock V6!

1999 Cavalier Coupe, daily driver, 2200/M5. Mods and pics are in my registry.
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Re: 2200 timing set?
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 9:45 AM
NICE





Re: 2200 timing set?
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 10:52 AM
so what yall are saying is that the timing set from the 1.8 motor will fit on my 98 cavalier with out modifications

10.5 second 1/8mile
est hp=130
est tq=135
Re: 2200 timing set?
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 11:50 AM
Sounds like the jist of it. We won't know till we try and just because one person throws BS doesn't mean it won't happen!


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Re: 2200 timing set?
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:03 PM
fast cavalier ecotec wrote:so what yall are saying is that the timing set from the 1.8 motor will fit on my 98 cavalier with out modifications


well if you wouod bother to read the other post about this, thne you would know that this is not the case. There is modification involed, but not alot.


Mike

1992 GMC Sonoma GT #492. Oh, Its just a stock V6!

1999 Cavalier Coupe, daily driver, 2200/M5. Mods and pics are in my registry.
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Re: 2200 timing set?
Thursday, November 03, 2005 7:41 AM
Bballjamal (Cav-AtL) wrote:Sounds like the jist of it. We won't know till we try and just because one person throws BS doesn't mean it won't happen!


Yes it will work. GM didn't chage the timing set on the 2.0,2.2 or 2200 after they went to the silent link timing set. Just machine the center of the cam gear as stated above and do the minor block work as per the 2L build-up guide. Note there is even instructions as how to instal cam degree bushing in the 2L buld-up guide, if you wish to degree the cam.





Re: 2200 timing set?
Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:53 AM
Crap! I got the gears and the chain but i can not order the tensioner!!!! Where can i get the tensioner!?






Re: 2200 timing set?
Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:07 AM
Anyone know where to get the tensioner!?






Re: 2200 timing set?
Thursday, November 17, 2005 7:49 AM
Try NAPA






Re: 2200 timing set?
Thursday, November 17, 2005 3:44 PM
Finally!

I spent some (more) time doing research on this. I have a one-number answer.

AE Clevite Part Number 9-3409 timing set.

After locating and downloading the catalog I was able to find this kit contains the following parts:
9-182 Double Roller Chain
S-532 Cam Sprocket
S-529 Crank Sprocket
9-5137 Tensioner
9-5138 Damper

This kit appears to be available through partsamerica.com for $95.99 not including shipping. Remove the dash before entering the part number on that site.

For future reference, if anyone orders this kit from a local store, please post the name of the store and the area it's in. Clevite parts are hard to find here in central New Hampshire. The strange thing is, Advance Auto is owned by Partsamerica but can't get Clevite engine parts. Jeez... marketing.

HTH
-->Slow
Re: 2200 timing set?
Friday, November 18, 2005 1:25 AM
Partsamerica rejected my order becasue they can NOT get the tensioner....






Re: 2200 timing set?
Friday, November 18, 2005 4:18 AM
So, the website can't get the tensioner separately?

Maybe you can find a store to sell the stuff to you?
http://engineparts.com/findastore.asp

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