RaGiN Z wrote:Funky Bottoms (Event) wrote:only thing you are doing is adding color and restoring lost efficiency from old stock coil packs....
You really think? You think that our DIS delivers as good a spark as a MSD blaster with nology hot wires, or the power core? Some how I doubt that.
MSD DIS-2 delivers enough spark alone to satisfy cars with upwards of 1000 HP...
yes, enough spark and multiple sparks at that, down low, to handle cars putting out power with triple the fuel we use...
now if you wanna talk stock ignition....
if you read up on coil packs, the main difference is more winds of material able to handle higher voltage
accell runs 70 winds of wire to handle 45,000 volts.
msd runs 80 winds of wire to handle 40,000 volts...
accell pushes the limits of their packs more so than msd does...
coil packs dont produce power, they merely transfer it.
stock coil packs are lower, in the 50-60 winds range handling 35,000 volts or so.
think of it as the more muscle a human has, the more weight he or she can throw around in the gym...
capacitors are capacitors... its like the ones we use to compliment amplifiers in audio....
now heres where the logic comes in. at most a full amplifier like MSD or CRANE CAMS fireball setups add maybe 2-6HP in naturally aspirated cars.... been tested time and time again over the years. and this is with stock engines may i add.
thats a FULL ignition setup.
msd throws out about 105 - 115 milliJoules per spark. ANNNND multiple sparks.... which is where you get alot of your power downlow. the multiple sparks.
now with 450$ worth of parts putting out 2-6HP
a capacitor that costs 50$ isnt gonna add no where near anything comensurate to a full amplified ignition setup.
as it stands all these gimmick wires setups and such can be replicated with simple legit mods like an engine grounding kit....
does the same thing. except for the ENTIRE CAR. more to gain than in JUST one area.
also if one wanted more spark, simply switching to a denso or ngk iridium plug which has a WAY smaller electrode (stock being around 1.7mm vs iridium being 0.4 - 0.7mm), meaning less energy lost through the medium (the electrode) will produce the same thing. slightly larger spark.
at best lower priced capacitors give better gas mileage. grounded wires the same really. its been tested over and over by different companies. unless the grounds in your car are so bad and rusted out ( and cavaliers gain very little on grounding kits besides brighter lights and marginally faster startups) ... then a grounded wire isnt gonna give you any power thats noticeable.
neither will a capacitor ridden wire. the gm setup is pretty strong from the factory as it is.
if you want power you have to increase spark a decent bit, along with adding air and fuel. in the upper rpms is where most gain 2-6 hp from a FULL ignition setup.
a capacitor is no where in the league of a full ignition setup. nor will it produce the same power as an ignition amplifier.
however you will gain, smoother idle, better fuel economy, and slightly better combustion.
but remember in this game of hobbies, you get what you pay for. power costs, how much do you REALLY want?
for someone that is boosted, if you wanna get into that game, using capacitors over an MSD would be a flacid at best choice....
ever try to chop a tree down using roman candles or would you use a stick of dynamite?
just like the wires, the weaker may give a better light show, but if you spent all the money to boost your car, do you want a light show,
OR
something thats actually gonna CONSISTENTLY and EFFICIENTLY .....'scuse my language but to quote a video game called mercenaries.... BLOW SH_T UP!????
your call.
but like said, coil packs are merely a medium, they dont boost power contrary to the myths... they do however RESTORE lost power. which is the same thing that spark plugs and wires do.
ONLY until you start reaching 4-500 HP cars will a plug or wire give you 5-10HP gains...
on stock power, or even up to 200 its about as even as tuner tube mods.