Hey,
Just read most of the posts concerning this intake on the "group purchase."
I've had the RKSPORT intake for a long time! It was the only one out there back in 02!
Now its time to switch, so can anyone tell me about this intake compared to AEM CAI?
The post said 9 WHP for this SECRET WEAPON!!! I'm probably getting 3 from my RKSPORT (see why I wanna switch)
Can anyone tell me how they like this intake for their ECO, specifically if anyone has had fitment problems with an 02 hood! Even though I have a carbon fiber hood, I don't know how this intake would fit if I bought it.
I NEED A POLL! AEM or SECRET WEAPON???
Thanks a lot
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I say stay with the RKsport intake... all intakes are just pipes with filters attached to the end, why waist the money on something you already have?
There's really going to be no real gain by switching between aftermarket intakes. Event will probally chime in on this too because I think he's gone through 4 or 5 intakes, and had no real difference in power.
Keep what you have if it's for go, change if you want show. That's the best way to sum it up
Sscret weapon my ass, lol. The highest tested CAI was the AEM I believe. It had something like 6.7hp gain on an STi. All these CAI companies claim to be better then one another when all CAI's do generally the same thing. Its just an air intake with piping. Given, the best ones are AEM and Injen, they all perform the same.
They probably got a 9hp gain, from using a leaf blower
... and if you dont know what im talking about, search the "other cars" fourm.
dan
My momma told me I was cool = )
No you guys, If Weapon R says its "SECRET TECHNOLOGY" I believe them, not to mention it also comes with a straw and a bag of blow.
But really...
If you are looking for more performance and you already have a intake (any kind) you need to do something else other than buy a different intake, your just throwing your money away.
Looking at your mods, next logical step is a head port and valve job, maybe cams, depending on if you are planning on boosting or not in the future.
15.71 @ 87.9mph 9-17-05
exodus 259 wrote:Sscret weapon my ass, lol. The highest tested CAI was the AEM I believe. It had something like 6.7hp gain on an STi. All these CAI companies claim to be better then one another when all CAI's do generally the same thing. Its just an air intake with piping. Given, the best ones are AEM and Injen, they all perform the same.
Actually, AEM is the only company that makes a "CAI" style intake for the ECOTEC
The secret weapon intake (the real one, not the partial ones they sell on ebay) are actually good and there is some type of technology into it. If you want to know more about it, talk to
Encriptor, he's an actual dealer for weapon-r (
www.definedparts.com) and he's personally done tests on them with his cars.
I know most people are going to dawg the Secret Weapon Intake and that's fine...
Now, generally speaking, an intake will only do so much as far as performance and they are generally the same, so getting rid of your RK Sport intake for another one, you more than likely won't notice a difference. I say you clean your current one and call it a day.
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I've had the weapon R header for while and I had the weapon R intake.... I can honestly say i will never ver buy a weapon R product again
Darkstars wrote:I've had the weapon R header for while and I had the weapon R intake.... I can honestly say i will never ver buy a weapon R product again
i have the header...and i 2nd what u said
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it looks like i'm the odd one. i have a K&N intake on my car. not sure about hp gains, but what the others have been saying. your not gonna notice a difference, and they all do relatively the same thing. only difference i could see, is if u were going from a ram air intake to a cold air.
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LSportin', 2 door, 5-speed, ecotec, and its in ultra silver metallic.
^ my cavy of course.
I thought Injen make one for the Ecotec as well? Damn, lol. Well when i buy mine, that really narrows it down, LOL
stick w/ the rk sport, its nice
just spend money else where
id get some tranny mounts, the upper motor mount, and arm bushings
Darkstars wrote:I've had the weapon R header for while and I had the weapon R intake.... I can honestly say i will never ver buy a weapon R product again
I've only had the Dragon intake from them, and that was on my 01 2200 4 speed auto Cavalier. That intake hit the hood, so I had to cut the rupper peice that attached to the TB & intake to get it to fit,
THEN that intake still made it damn near impossable to get a STB to fit.
Those 2 problems and the fact that I NEVER received a filter I ordered from them last year, NEVER received a refund or had them respond to my BBB complaint is why I'll never buy another Weapon R product
exodus 259 wrote:I thought Injen make one for the Ecotec as well? Damn, lol. Well when i buy mine, that really narrows it down, LOL
For the CAI style, only AEM has it in the CAI style...Injen's intake is a "WAI" style.
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I'm still confused!! Thanks for all who posted!
Colder AIR means more DENSE air right? So the denser the air, the faster it burns. I figure the WAI I have still sucks in some hot engine air no matter how fast outside air is coming in. SO, with an AEM CAI wouldn't I have better combustion?
This wouldn't be such an issue if I did not LIVE IN FLORIDA!. My car performs totally different in this heat; winter time its totally different in how it pulls.
Talk to me
Thanks
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02ecotecimportkiller wrote:I'm still confused!! Thanks for all who posted!
Colder AIR means more DENSE air right? So the denser the air, the faster it burns. I figure the WAI I have still sucks in some hot engine air no matter how fast outside air is coming in. SO, with an AEM CAI wouldn't I have better combustion?
This wouldn't be such an issue if I did not LIVE IN FLORIDA!. My car performs totally different in this heat; winter time its totally different in how it pulls.
Talk to me
Thanks
What you are missing is that the whole "Cold Air" and "Warm Air" is a gimmick. They call it that those names to draw people like yourself in to conclusions like you just said. In reality, when your car is moving, you are still getting in enough cool air circulation. If this wasn't true, you would see cars everywhere breaking down because they are getting nothing but hot air.
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they just say cai and wai instead of long ram and short ram because its easier and sounds better.
basically a short ram has better throttle response and hp while a long ram has better torque
hp gains from a well designed "CAI" or a "WAI" are about the same, as NJHK said it's more of a gimmick than anything else.
-Chris
The only real difference is that getting a CAI is more of a risk because of how low it is to the ground. There's a good chance it'll suck in water or something else that will lock the engine. You can by a valve for it that fixes that problem, but I remember reading something saying it lowers the power a bit.
exodus 259 wrote:The only real difference is that getting a CAI is more of a risk because of how low it is to the ground. There's a good chance it'll suck in water or something else that will lock the engine. You can by a valve for it that fixes that problem, but I remember reading something saying it lowers the power a bit.
Actually, we have had many threads about this and many different people who have "Cold Air" style intakes and drive them daily in all types of weather and have never had any type of water issues...and these are also people who DO NOT have a bypass valve. The only way I could seriously see you getting water inside is if you're driving through a semi-flooded area but even still that tube is very long so it's not like you'll suck up a river but little amounts of water.
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The AEM is the best way to go if you are looking for peak peformance. I have the AEM and my buddy has the weapon R "secret technology" and i walk away from his cavalier. I have an 03 cavi auto and he has an 02 cavi manual eco. i am not sure if they made changes from 02 to 03 or what but those are the facts.
2003 Silver Cavalier 2.2L Ecotec!!!!
NJHK (Sexual Chocolate) wrote:exodus 259 wrote:I thought Injen make one for the Ecotec as well? Damn, lol. Well when i buy mine, that really narrows it down, LOL
For the CAI style, only AEM has it in the CAI style...Injen's intake is a "WAI" style.
Speaking of injen, does anybody with an eco have one? WAI of course. If you do could you post some pics of it. Thanks.
RATBAG,
DO YOU HEAR THE INTAKE SOUND?? MINE SOUNDS ONLY WITH THE HOOD UP!!
I KNOW WITH VTEC AND AN AEM CAI, ITS REALLY LOUD AND SOUNDS GOOD.
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ratbag wrote:The AEM is the best way to go if you are looking for peak peformance. I have the AEM and my buddy has the weapon R "secret technology" and i walk away from his cavalier. I have an 03 cavi auto and he has an 02 cavi manual eco. i am not sure if they made changes from 02 to 03 or what but those are the facts.
03 is when they started putting in the Ecotec. The 95-02 has a different engine, and i don't recall the name of it off hand, lol.
