Just wonderin what you guys thought about the 2.2OHV and how it performs. Such as how it performs based on being an OHV and using extra power to push up like if u were to compare it to a OHC engine, that doesnt need to do that extra work.
I for one believe that for what this little engine is, it has a good deal of grunt. I can barely believe some of the cars it can overtake considering it's only packing, what? 96-102hp to the wheels.....And the engine responds to motor work really well, obviously not as good as I'd want, but pretty descent.
I'd like to see more all motor 2.2's get into the 170's-200whp mark or even crank would be acceptable. I know there's been about 3-4 to either hit that mark or be close and I wish I knew some of the secrets behind the common bolt-ons and engine building to get to that mark myself......
N2O + Bolt-ons
= 220Hp/
250Tq
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Jazer wrote:Just wonderin what you guys thought about the 2.2OHV and how it performs. Such as how it performs based on being an OHV and using extra power to push up like if u were to compare it to a OHC engine, that doesnt need to do that extra work.
I personally think its a great motor. Granted lots of people talk smack on the ohv and its low out put stock., it has lots of potential just like any motor now adays. One major hurdle for the ohv is the head, if your serious about building the ohv you would want to consider getting the head tweaked ( ei port&polish rockers, valves, etc). On certain aspects you can save money with going ohv as well and using that money else where. A good example would be in motor configuration with a DOHC motor. They use two cams, 16 valves, as where the ohv has 1 cam and 8 valves. Besides everyone knows GM's best motors have always have had pushrods
Right now I'm hooked on nitrous and have nothing but good luck with it. Take your time and realistically figure out what you want to accomplish with your ohv. This way you don't waste money on mods that wont work with corresponding mods in the future. ( ei high compression pistons and wild na cams or cam for boost.) I want to hit 220 whp on the bottle. next summer if all goes to plan. Basically it boils down to taking the time to research what you can do. Not everything will be 2200 specific but what you learn can be applied to the 2200. If all else fails ask the org someone is more than likely to help.
-Jeff
def love it.
its not the biggest, baddest engine in stock form, or even heavily modded but neither is the rest of any of the j-body lines when it comes to suspension, handling, quality overall etc....
however it is what it is and for its class it gets the job done. its only as competitive as you make it. only down side to that, is not many opt to actually do something, beside look for easy fixes, and then usually bog down and never finish doing the swaps... a few actually do swap to something else and complete it. but not many even bother learning about modding it or any engine for that matter.
but its a great base, less moving parts usually mean less stuff to go wrong, and as of yet, no one has reached any 2.2 ohv limit potential. some are in the process though.
2.2 ohv are nice little motors. They are easy as hell to work on. Because of the way that it is set up, if you turbo one, the bling bling turbo will sit right infront for everyone to see.
It will get alot of attention at the tracks and local meets when you open the hood.
A turbo 2.2 that puts out 275hp & 306 torque and is able to put down some good times at the track will also get some attention.
275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!
Nice to hear some good things about it. Now im new at this, and still learnin about the engine but i find it very fascinating (im a girl so give me a break
) Now i dont wanna go nitro, atleast not for awhile, cuz my car is an everyday driver so i wanna go all engine for now. maybe turbo her eventually.
I heard doing a P&P was reeally good for this engine, will really give it some power. Now im just curious what the size of the cylinder is stock, and what you guys have brought it to after the P&P and after honing it.
Also what would be a good next mod for ma 2.2 (just your opinions). I currently have a cold air intake and a catback exhaust. I know i need an exhaust header and high flow cat. Is there other bolt-ons that ud recomend? I also have to be careful because New Hampshire came out with new emissions laws that are alot more strict. I wanna make this under-dog prevail like all of you so any suggestions, comments or anything deffinatly appreciated!
the FAQ (TOP OF FORUM) has a suggestion of what to do as well as links to a port and polish site....
http://www.ny-jbodies.org/library/engine/2200/2200.htm are the specs
as for boltons, should be enough in the FAQ to get you started... stay away from the scam ones and you should be fine...
Thanks, that link is very informational!
Both tranny and motor mounts should be on your list of next things to get! The car will feel totally different with the motor mounts in, and honestly I could tell no difference with the tranny mounts besides no more wheel hop.....which is a very good thing if you love your axles
Honestly I think nitrous is the perfrect power adder for a daily driver! You don't use it while driving unless you want to unlike a turbo or supercharger. Obviously a turbocharger would eventually yield more power and of course both a turbo and supercharger wouldn't have to be refilled all the time like nitrous. All three have their up's and down's but I chose Da spray!!!!
Will probably end up boosting her, and of course keep the spray on too just for kicks and giggles......
N2O + Bolt-ons
= 220Hp/
250Tq
Coming Soon:HpTunersPro, EagleConnectingRods, WiescoPistons, 13sec2200
Just skip all of those rudy poo mods and go straight to boost..........Oh look, its your lucky day. I am selling my 2200 turbo kit. Are you ready to buy?
275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!
but to boost it u have to reinforce alot right? on the 2.2? thats what i heard. i dont think im ready to buy, but how much are u selling for? just outa curiosity if its affordable id consider it. but ive also heard its not really good to daily drive a turboed car for a loong period of time. atleast one thats not turboed stock. cuz mine is an everyday driver. even in the winter, most of the time, sometimes i drive my nismo 4x4 but basically my cavy and i go everywhere...
There are alot of people turboing their 2.2 with the stock motor. Just aslong as you have enough fuel, and do not get crazy with the boost controller, you will be fine. There are also alot of people who daily drive their turbo 2.2s. I used to daily drive my turbo 2.2 without any problems.
If you are intested in buying it, email me at adesire@comcast.net
I am wanting around $2500 ish for the complete turbo kit minus the FMU and maybe injectors.
275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!
I have my head in the shop right now getting a nice P&P done and an all new valvtrain so we will see how i feel
Yes, do tell us how it works out for you.
Yea me too, its gunna be till atleast spring time till i can get some more stuff done.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Real GM muscle has always been and always will be pushrod motors.
I was a retard, and now I'm permanently banned.
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There are alot of people turboing their 2.2 with the stock motor. Just aslong as you have enough fuel, and do not get crazy with the boost controller, you will be fine. There are also alot of people who daily drive their turbo 2.2s. I used to daily drive my turbo 2.2 without any problems.
I am one of them. My stock 2.2 engine has been turbocharged since 5/04 and gets driven almost daily. It's currently set for steady boost of just below 8 psi but is mild enough so that the wife is able to drive it (she has it today). As Adler said, one key is getting enough fuel to the engine. Another is retarding ignition timing as boost increases.
I would be looking at typical airflow adders for an NA car. Exhaust and intake can add reasonable power.
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Shaune Drake wrote:i personally believe that one day the ohv will be better than the eco and 2.4 in performance cause we still havent reached its full potential, over the years i believe things will jst get better and better... but maybe its just me compensating for the lack of speed.
dont know about all that....
sport compact scene has gone away from performance and straight into interior and exterior accessories...
plus, theres not to many people who actually take the time to learn about their engine, much less learn how to make it faster. the majority of the people here on this site, add basic boltons, then dont get magical results and then go for a swap, then for the few that actually do the swap and actually finish it, even fewer further the performance....
Dirty Muffins (Event) wrote:Shaune Drake wrote:i personally believe that one day the ohv will be better than the eco and 2.4 in performance cause we still havent reached its full potential, over the years i believe things will jst get better and better... but maybe its just me compensating for the lack of speed.
dont know about all that....
sport compact scene has gone away from performance and straight into interior and exterior accessories...
plus, theres not to many people who actually take the time to learn about their engine, much less learn how to make it faster. the majority of the people here on this site, add basic boltons, then dont get magical results and then go for a swap, then for the few that actually do the swap and actually finish it, even fewer further the performance....
but there are always people like us that care more about going fast than looking fast because false advertisement is stupid. and no matter how old and fat we get, there is always more to learn and plenty of knowledge we can pass on just in case someone wants it.
I was a retard, and now I'm permanently banned.
Spotabee Racing wrote:Dirty Muffins (Event) wrote:Shaune Drake wrote:i personally believe that one day the ohv will be better than the eco and 2.4 in performance cause we still havent reached its full potential, over the years i believe things will jst get better and better... but maybe its just me compensating for the lack of speed.
dont know about all that....
sport compact scene has gone away from performance and straight into interior and exterior accessories...
plus, theres not to many people who actually take the time to learn about their engine, much less learn how to make it faster. the majority of the people here on this site, add basic boltons, then dont get magical results and then go for a swap, then for the few that actually do the swap and actually finish it, even fewer further the performance....
but there are always people like us that care more about going fast than looking fast because false advertisement is stupid. and no matter how old and fat we get, there is always more to learn and plenty of knowledge we can pass on just in case someone wants it.
i can agree with that, but the part about "that one day the ohv will be better than the eco and 2.4 in performance "....
thats a bit on the "pharcyde"... wishful thinkings, yes no doubt.... but gm will doubtfully be pushing the ohv platform which is discontinued more than the new ecotec platform.
granted there will be people who will mod it as a hobby like myself and most others in this post, the majority of people, especially the younger will never follow through and look for an easy fix, putting them more in the hole...
I have a 2200 motor as well. I like my lil car I would love to do lots more to the motor than I already have but since it is a daily driver and all its kinda hard. I suppose after school when I get a real job and make real money maybe Ill buy a new car and keep this one to play with. I have a PnP head, valve job, intake and an exhaust on order. We will see so far so good though.
I think 2.2s are junk
................Which car will hit 400 whp first???................
