hey everyone i want to build my motor up na and everyone was tellin me its not worth it and all but i found the the jbody performance page has a built botom with 12:1 compression . and they have the heads and all . cams ... everything . .... would it be worth it to buy all that or just go turbo ?
Anything is possible. It's more of what is your goal as far as power.
The chances are you will gain more power from boost than going all motor. Going all motor is extremely hard to do and having it high powered. With the Honda guys it's easier cause they have VVT (Variable Valve Timing), we don't (yet). The 2.4 ECOTECs that are supposed to come out do have it.
For the most part you will spend more money to and gain less power going all motor than going boost whether it's turbo or supercharging.
I'm not trying to discourage you but the ECOTEC is a fairly new motor and not many people have yet to really go high power and if they have, I'm sure their results weren't as high as their expectations. At that note peoples answer around here is boost or nitrous.
Now, I'm sure you can make a nice all motor 200 HP or slightly more powered car (crank HP) all motor if you do the right tricks and get the right parts.
Good luck to whatever you decide to do...
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The advantage of building up a N/A motor though is if you ever decide to run boost or N20, you will have an engine that can take it very easily... just lower your compression down and your good to go.
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Freebs wrote:The advantage of building up a N/A motor though is if you ever decide to run boost or N20, you will have an engine that can take it very easily... just lower your compression down and your good to go.
I understand what your saying but think of it from a pricing issue. Say you spent $1200 on a fully built head, $600 for installation, $1500 on a fully built high compression bottom end and $800 for installation. He just spent $4100 on the motor. Now he decides he wants to boost, not even including the dollar amount to boost (as far as a kit & installation) he wants to get lower compression pistons, that's $500 for the pistons and then say another $800 to open the motor up and install it. So that's an extra $1300 he has to spend to get it ready for boost and $5400 he has spent on his motor for parts and installation (not including a turbo kit and installation).
Doesn't sound that simple to do now that you put the dollar amounts up. Now of course these are rounded numbers and they could be more or loss off but this is the price range he will be investing inside the motor.
It's best to DECIDE what you want to do before you go inside the bottom end and up the compression. If you want boost, lower it or keep it stock. If you want all motor, bump it up. Changing your mind afterwards can be costly.
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...i say go all motor, high compression, then add nitrous. you got a built bottom end to support it, no future work required, and you just spray whenever you want or need. im saving as we speak to do just that.
with the built, high compression engine, you may have maybe 175hp at the wheels, then add a 75 shot? screeeeeeeeeech....fast.
so maybe, like nj said, 4k or so for the motor with install, and maybe 750 for nitrous kit with installation....for under 5grand, u have a quick, quick car...
...don't hate!.. respect people that have talent, even if it is in something you don't like or understand.
ok the thing is i have the 2200 motor not the ecotec ..... but with all those mods that they have on the site i'm almost positive i can get bout 180 190 horses..... and then direct port nitrous ... probly shooting 75 ....
you couldnt run a 100 shot on a stock 2200 could you?
"There is no point in looking fast if your not."
..Unless you do your own cylinder head porting, and keep the stock bottom end! Then it's not very expensive at all to do n/a compared to turbo!
04firetec wrote:..Unless you do your own cylinder head porting, and keep the stock bottom end! Then it's not very expensive at all to do n/a compared to turbo!
Yeah but we are talking about going for a high powered 4 cylinder motor and getting the max capabilities out the motor. In order to do that you need to do the bottom end.
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Ask VTLoki about his JBP "performance" engine.
What happened with this? Did it blow up or something?
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