I race a 97 cav on a half mile oval dirt track and it does well.I recently acquired a 98 2.2 and found the roller rockers. Can anyone tell me if putting the rollers on the 97 is possible and also which cam is better,97 or 98. I cant use the head off of the 98 though because the intake and exhaust manifolds are different. Which pistons are better also,97-98 thanks

dan nunya wrote:I race a 97 cav on a half mile oval dirt track and it does well.I recently acquired a 98 2.2 and found the roller rockers. Can anyone tell me if putting the rollers on the 97 is possible and also which cam is better,97 or 98. I cant use the head off of the 98 though because the intake and exhaust manifolds are different. Which pistons are better also,97-98 thanks

To tell you the truth, I believe most of the parts in both motors are the same...maybe the head might be different between the 2. I can't remember for sure which year in the 3rd gens the motors are 2.2 OHV and 2200 OHV and what the differences are between the two's heads.

I would think though the pistons are the same actually.

Your better off upgrading your engine or build up your spare engine because there really isn't much "performance technology" inside the OHV motors.

If you want to replace anything inside the 2.2 OHV, go to www.jbodyperformance.com and they have EVERYTHING for the inside of that motor. Good Luck with whatever you want to do.



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no no no the 97 and 98 are two different motors and the valvetrain is different!!! you can't interchange 2.2 and 2200 upper end parts. doesn't work. go to jbodyperformance.com and take a look at their valvetrain parts. your 98 motor of course, would be the 2200. if you are talking about circle track, then you are talking about high rpm racing. so you're probably gonna want the stage 2 cam because of its profile.




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the 97 and 98 are two different motors and the valvetrain is different

Oh ok, wasn't sure when the 2200 came in. Yeah, different motors like he said...



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the 97 and 98 are two different motors and the valvetrain is different

Oh ok, wasn't sure when the 2200 came in. Yeah, different motors like he said...

yup. 98 - 02 is the 2200. sequential fuel injection, and the damn topfeed injectors with of course tons of aftermarket support. us 95 - 97 2.2 guys get no love.




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Well, I have a 98' 2200 and I wouldn't call it "tons of aftermarket support". And whats the big deal about topfeed injectors?


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Rick 2419 wrote:Well, I have a 98' 2200 and I wouldn't call it "tons of aftermarket support". And whats the big deal about topfeed injectors?

their injectors plug down into a hole, like damn near the entire injector. we have more options on where to get em from with top feed.


also a few people have done top feed conversions for the older 2.2, chcek some posts in the boost forum. and even here, vtloki i believe is the one.

and really, we all are in the same level of mods for these cars.... for the most part, most people will be able to get custom parts done and or made anywhere.

pistons are easy to find, rods are...and if not, get em made.

same as everything else, si makes valves, valve springs can be made....



only problem is the majority of people who have these engines never get indepth to it.

as it stands one has made a 13 second 2.2 ohv N/A.... he did it way before now, and its all because he did his research, homework, and made some effort. everyone here i am sure can all do the same

as for pistons, both are stock.

as for cams, both are stock, and trying to use the newer cam offers less power.



get custom pistons and cams done.... do your homework on how far you wanna increase things and have a place custom do you a grind or go to howell automotive or jbodyperformance.

Dam-it Muffins (Event) wrote:as it stands one has made a 13 second 2.2 ohv N/A.... he did it way before now, and its all because he did his research, homework, and made some effort. everyone here i am sure can all do the same

Or you can just buy that motor. I believe most of it is in the classifieds right now

I think the reason he may be looking to use some of the 2200 parts in the 2.2 is because (I believe) some forms of circle track racing, everything on the engine must be stock. I believe Adler determined the 2.2 cam was a tiny bit more aggressive than the 2200 cam. I think cranks and rods are the same. Pistons are ever so slightly different I believe. Coolant flows in opposite directions through the two heads. I believe the 2200 rockers are 1.54:1, whereas the 2.2 rockers are 1.5:1, and I believe they're interchangeable. Otherwise, You can get 1.6:1 comp cams rockers (which practically look stock) for next to nothing.


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To be honest from what ive learned about the 2.2 OHV is that the 97 cam maybe a bit more aggresive but wont work. Ask Ken 2.2 Ive been talking to him about it and the cam wont work. The timing on the crankshaft is different by alot. If someone could figure out how to get it to work more power to you. I bought a 97 cam off adler to see if it would work but from what ive learned it wont. So i have a cam that right now unless there is another way to get it to work. If you would want the cam IM or email me and talk to me about it.
Only thing i can think of is get a cam reground thats for more mid-high range power. that would be your best bet. Im learning alot about this engine and trying to get everything figured out before i dump money into it. The motor has potential but like anything else requires money to get potential out of it.
Talk to people like Ken 2.2, Adler, and Event. Ive learned alot from what they have posted and alot from when i talk to them online(havent talked to Event but have with Ken and Adler).





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