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True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:52 AM
I have looked around on few sites and a custom car shop near me to try and find a true cold air intake for my car, but have had no luck. I found AEM short ram air and Inject systems. Just wondering if anyone makes one or is it something you need custom built?

thanks






Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:02 AM
http://www.induction-dynamics.com/sunfirecavaliergrandamalero24l.html


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Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:24 AM
Thanks alot!!!!!!!

What kind of power gain am i looking at 4-6hp???





Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:32 AM
dyno before and after, that's the only way to tell.




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Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:37 AM
Dude, I just read through your exhaust thread... If your getting a turbo a month from now (like you said) don't bother getting an intake.

The reason being is the turbo is going to replace whatever intake you buy now, so you'll end up with a $200 section of pipe with a filter that is usless to you.





Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:45 AM
DeadBob wrote:Dude, I just read through your exhaust thread... If your getting a turbo a month from now (like you said) don't bother getting an intake.

The reason being is the turbo is going to replace whatever intake you buy now, so you'll end up with a $200 section of pipe with a filter that is usless to you.


hi deadbob. you drive a sunfire. and deadbob is correct.




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Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:53 AM
Topsub
like i said in your exhaust thread. you need to do some more research before diving into some things. like getting a turbo. in that exhaust thread you stated you wanted a header. then you also said you want a turbo. if you had done your homework like some people do then you would know getting a $250 pacesetter header is a waste of money if you are planning on getting a turbo. same goes in this thread. if you would done your homework you would of found out that you dont need an intake with a turbo.
that would of been anywhere from 300 to 500 you spent on parts that you dont need.



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Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:08 AM
okay, cuz when i have seen some pictures of turbos in car they have intakes hooked up to them. I will try to find a picture and post it, Just based on what i have seen i thought you needed one. My bad

Yes i am stll gonna get turbo




Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:13 AM
Topsub wrote:okay, cuz when i have seen some pictures of turbos in car they have intakes hooked up to them. I will try to find a picture and post it, Just based on what i have seen i thought you needed one. My bad

Yes i am stll gonna get turbo


turbos do not mount to headers. turbos mount to turbo manifolds. completely different location of flange and type of flange there ARE turbo headers however. two different types of turbo manifolds:

log manifold = your basic stock exhaust manifold (not individual pipes) with a turbo flange.
turbo header= a header design with a turbo flange.




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Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:33 AM
turbos have intakes but nothing like this which im thinking you were refering too



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Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:34 AM
okay gotcha thanks alot






Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:30 PM
also for starters, theres no such thing as a TRUE cold air intake. thats simply another marketing term geared towards getting people to believe this intake is special from all the others, cause its true....

and dont be too fooled with the term "cold" air.

according to your cardomain page... you live in SOUTH CAROLINA..... do you feel ANY cold air around there. i;m a few states up and maybe at night, but during most times in the south.... cold air only exists in the winter, even if then.

long rams and short rams have their advantages and disadvantages. just cause they label it a cold air intake, doesnt mean you get cold air. you know what heat looks like when it rises from the ground in the summer. wheres the first area you think that hits on a alleged cold air intake? the filter.

so you are still taking in 140+ degree heat, plus for every bend in the intake, you lose throttle response due to bends slow things down. fastest way from A to B is a straight line, right? basic geometry

in some situations a short ram is better, some a long ram, also depends on how you set either up.


but like others have stated, might wanna start doing some more research. if you plan to go turbo, you def will not use the same pipes from a cai, with the turbo...



Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:37 PM
...give ya the same advice ive given to others...if you drive your car in the rain (an you will, a lot of freak storms in the nc/sc area) or in the dirt, with a long ram / cai / whatever u wanna call it, your'e gonna be cleaning the filter once a week. i had the rk cai, and i was ALWAYS cleaning my filter..much happier with a shorty.







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Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 12:48 PM
difference between long and short cai is only that the long one you'll have to fit it directly on the throttle body and the short one will simply replace the Oem S-tube that connect after the black blox which is connected to the TB .... don't see why you had to clean your filter more often since the air filter is in both case at the same place ....
Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:11 PM
666boost666 wrote:difference between long and short cai is only that the long one you'll have to fit it directly on the throttle body and the short one will simply replace the Oem S-tube that connect after the black blox which is connected to the TB .... don't see why you had to clean your filter more often since the air filter is in both case at the same place ....





you are def off.

where did you get long and short CAI???


CAI;s are refered to as long ram intakes, and the filter ends up in the wheel well.

WAI's which are short ram intakes are located in the engine bay where the stock air box was.


and intake that replaces the S tube is still a short ram or WAI whether it replaces the black box, or goes all the way to the TB.





Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:26 PM
I just have a quick question. Does the AEM Short Ram Intake connect directly to the throttle body, or does it just connect to the black box? I've been wanting to know this cuz I hate that big ol' black thing hoggin' up the engine bay.
Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Thursday, May 19, 2005 8:45 PM
Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Friday, May 20, 2005 5:17 AM
I read thru most of your post and got tired. I am going to tell you the thruth about a TRUE COLD AIR. but im not sure why I bother becasue noone ever seems to listen to me. and this is not an attack on you but more the fact that im tired of the jbo scene speningmore then it has to.
180 thats the amount of money that will be thrown away if you purchase any of those high priced intakes. for the 9399483902 time an intake is an aluminum tube! nothing more. I have an ecotec and AEM wants a CAI that drops 10 inches lower then a WAI. both were around 200 freakin dollars. so I went to ebay droped 20 dollars and bought a damn 2.4 intake. I actually had some smchcks tell me the enginer wasn't made for my car. GODAMAIT a tube, an alimnium tube. oh did I mention the intake fit with minimal modifaction( a damn bracket was in the way so I cut it off)

now there are 2 good reasons why you would actually want a namebrand intake 1 is judges seem to like the fact that you droped some dough i guess
and 2 you like spending useless money. 20 bucks on ebay then give the rest to cancer reasarch.

last and least an intake is a good thing to have around if you want to turbo the car it should still fit the compressure side of the turbo and you can youse the bends to get it away from evil hot stuff. god luck


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Re: True Cold Air intake 4 2.4l twin
Friday, May 20, 2005 7:11 AM
oh okay thanks



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