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why you don't do maintenance without jackstands
Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:00 PM
I was helping a friend work on his brakes on his 97 cav and neither of us have jackstands so we said "aww screw it, there isn't much chance of the car falling off the jack just doing brakes"................WRONG...the damned car fell off of the jack twice. once causing the hood to fall off the prop rod and almost crushed my friends fingers. needless to say after we were done, he went and got a set of jackstands for the next time.

so lesson learned....the car can fall off the jack, and it can do it easily, so please, don't do maintenance without proper support for the car


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Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:10 PM
Wow....so you wait till AFTER YOUR DONE and AFTER IT FALLS TWICE to get jackstands? Someone with half a brain cell would get them AFTER THE FIRST TIME IT FELL!

You two are genius' ain't you



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Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:20 PM
aint my car, and not like we could drive a car with no brakes to get parts


You'll never touch God's hand
You'll never taste God's breath
Because you'll never see the second coming
Life's too short to be focused on insanity
I've seen the ways of God
I'll take the devil any day
Hail Satan

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Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:43 PM
Good lesson to learn without losing any limbs.

I'm not sure what the weight distribution is on a Cavi, but I'm sure if it landed on your leg it would be 100% at that exact point.





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John Wilken
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Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:51 PM
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/184527

I think the first post said that he came into work in the morning, and found his co-worked crushed under a car. He was only using jacks, with no jack stands.
Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Sunday, July 23, 2006 7:07 PM
mikec2003 wrote:aint my car, and not like we could drive a car with no brakes to get parts


You don't have a car you could use to get them? Just another case of laziness. Your lucky Darwin didn't get another one.



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Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:08 PM
uhh yeah sure we could have used my car, and walked 5 miles, which where i live would take well over 2 hours due to traffic signals.

you know, i was just trying to make a point to others why you should do things the right way...but as usual you gotta come in here like a big @!#$ and try to bash everyone and talk @!#$, when you don't know half the details, so why don't you just get in a crash at the track and die


You'll never touch God's hand
You'll never taste God's breath
Because you'll never see the second coming
Life's too short to be focused on insanity
I've seen the ways of God
I'll take the devil any day
Hail Satan

(slayer, skeleton christ, 2006)
Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:24 PM
About 6 years ago, an acquaintance of mine was doing work on his car w/out jackstands... in fact it was just to replace a pin that came out of his shifter linkage on his old Nova (and in a grocery store parking lot even)... something that he did many times before. He wasn't sure what the problem was... the pin was replaced numerous times, the endlink on the cable as well. Even dropped the tranny to change the part where it hooked to... no luck. Every so often it would pop out.

Well, the car fell off the jack while he was under the car.

He lived (barely), but had to spend about 3-4 months in the ICU with massive head trauma. His family damn near went bankrupt w/ all the medical bills.

Do it right the first time, or back away from the vehicle.



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Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:44 PM
I don't really trust jack stands. Even though i'v never seem them fail i'm still iffy about them. I feel much safer with a 16x16" blocks of wood.
Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Sunday, July 23, 2006 11:24 PM
Just a reminder to yall who like to use ramps..... ALWAYS chock the tires BOTH directions. Back in high school, I pulled my camaro up on ramps to do a tranny filter change. Somehow I accidentally knocked the car out of gear and the car rolled off the ramps. I was on a creeper with my feet sticking out the front of the car (luckily). The car came down on my chest and pulled me halfway down the driveway till the wheels of the creeper got stuck in the relief crack in the slab and the car pulled itself off of me and into the street. I ended up with bruised ribs and several lacerations and the rest of the feelings associated with being run over...lol. I laugh about it now, but I also dont take chances anymore. I got really lucky.... some cant say the same. Just remember to take all possible precautions, you never know what can happen.


I plan on living forever... so far so good
Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Monday, July 24, 2006 4:43 AM
hell when i work at dodge i had a lift-phobia yeah their cool and you can walk completely under the car but i always felt wierd under one. and knowing if it did fall and he safety latches didn't work i'm 100% screwed




Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Monday, July 24, 2006 5:12 AM
Well mikec2003 I think you were brave and honest and I can see the object of your post was to highlight the danger to others.

I recall a tragic tale of a guy who went out on a Sunday morning and started an oil change on a grassed area. When his wife went to call him in for lunch he was crushed fatally under the car. Jack, or stands as well, were not specified but the supporting system had sunk into the grass.

Things do happen and the more support the safer


Alont
Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Monday, July 24, 2006 6:15 AM
A couple months ago my Dad was working on his S10 and he had it on ramps with in the front with wood blocks behind the rear wheels and somehow it rolled off the ramps and landed on him. He was pinned under the truck for a couple minutes while he yelled for his buddy to come help.

He still doesn't have full use of his right shoulder/arm.



Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Monday, July 24, 2006 3:43 PM
Yup, always a good idea to make sure the car is properly supported. Hear, hear!

I've had my share of close calls.... never again. Now I have proper ramps, blocks, stands, heavy duty jacks, etc.... doing it cheap will catch ya sooner or later.





Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Monday, July 24, 2006 4:18 PM
mikec2003 wrote:uhh yeah sure we could have used my car, and walked 5 miles, which where i live would take well over 2 hours due to traffic signals.

you know, i was just trying to make a point to others why you should do things the right way...but as usual you gotta come in here like a big @!#$ and try to bash everyone and talk @!#$, when you don't know half the details, so why don't you just get in a crash at the track and die


Now I really wish Darwin had won you jackass.



I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Monday, July 24, 2006 5:16 PM
Jack stands can fail too.. I had my old capri on jack stands.. I was wrestling with a rusty bolt that was holding the gas tank to the car.. One yank, and I noticed the jack at the front was starting to slip.. I yelled as the car was starting to fall on me. My friend grabbed my legs and pulled.. just as the car came crashing down. I never been so scared in my life..




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Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Monday, July 24, 2006 5:20 PM
Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:
mikec2003 wrote:uhh yeah sure we could have used my car, and walked 5 miles, which where i live would take well over 2 hours due to traffic signals.

you know, i was just trying to make a point to others why you should do things the right way...but as usual you gotta come in here like a big @!#$ and try to bash everyone and talk @!#$, when you don't know half the details, so why don't you just get in a crash at the track and die


Now I really wish Darwin had won you jackass.



teh Sunfires... (Tom) wrote:
Hypsy' just being a douche again. Pretty normal.





Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Monday, July 24, 2006 6:12 PM
too bad darwin wouldnt have won with you hypsy, so you can stop infecting the world with the filth that spews from your sewer pipe of a mouth


You'll never touch God's hand
You'll never taste God's breath
Because you'll never see the second coming
Life's too short to be focused on insanity
I've seen the ways of God
I'll take the devil any day
Hail Satan

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Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Monday, July 24, 2006 6:16 PM
^^^ why even care what hypsy says?



Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Monday, July 24, 2006 7:58 PM
teh Sunfires... (Tom) wrote:^^^ why even care what hypsy says?


Why even listen to you? You've already stated on here that your going to do nothing but trash me because I started a business before I had a storefront. Your opinion never counts after that. Your BIASED. If your puny brain knows what that means.



I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Monday, July 24, 2006 8:03 PM
teh Sunfires... (Tom) wrote:^^^ why even care what hypsy says?


i don't know, but im done now, its not worth the impending ban. and besides, ive said what i need to say already, that its pretty messed up to try to talk crap to someone who knows they did wrong and are just trying to inform others before they make the same mistake and injure themselves


You'll never touch God's hand
You'll never taste God's breath
Because you'll never see the second coming
Life's too short to be focused on insanity
I've seen the ways of God
I'll take the devil any day
Hail Satan

(slayer, skeleton christ, 2006)

Re: why you don't do maintenance without jackstand
Monday, July 24, 2006 8:15 PM
Quote:

"If you two wanna turn yourselves into a greazy spot out on a country road somewheres, go right ahead. I don't give a @!#$ and I don't think anybody else does, but you two monkeys are not going to do it on my (website)."

Ok, thought that quote would be appropriate. And if you don't know what its from, you let me know right now, and I'll just (start handing out bans). There is no excuse for not knowing every major quote from one of the best racing movies ever made.
That quote is paraphrased from an email that went out over the mod's email list some time ago, and seems to be appropriate here. This is going to be the first, last and only warning on this issue, and is directed specifically at Tom and Hypsy (though it applies to a few others as well). If you can't behave when in the same thread, DON'T POST.

We don't care who started it, or when or why. Any further crap like this and ALL those involved are going to be taking extended vacations. It doesn't matter if 'it's just the internet' or you think you're some kind of keyboard tough guy, this kind of name calling and hate-spewing won't be tolerated here.

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