yesterday on the way home, my check engine light came on, and i imediatly turned around and zoomed over to Discount Auto Parts. It was code P1113 or P0113, (somethnig like that ) and it was the Air Intake Temp sensor. I played with it, pluged it back in, and code is still coming on. I had them reset it, but wasn't but 10 minutes later, it kicked back on.
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Check the wires in the connector sometimes they wiggle loose.
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yeah, i tried doing that, i unpluged the thing, i tried to check the wires going in, and it all seemed fine...... so... i guess next step is to just replace the sensor, but that's not gonna be possible for another 2 weeks........
thats why i was trying to see how critical that is, because i really don't feel a difference in the performance..... but i havn't pushed it either
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Well they are the same from 95 to 05 and they cost only like $10.00 at the dealer. So either just go grab one ( cheap enough ) or hit a junk yard and score one from a 95 - 02
car and try it out. Hell while your there grab a hand full of them. They'll fit in your pocket.
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yeah, i do need to hit the junkyard either today, or tommorrow.........
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Id say clean it real good first before you spend money on buying a new one.. Clean it, reset your battery then start the car..
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so it could just get cloged up ?
well, i'll try that...... letssee what happens........
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If you do decide to try and clean it the only thing you can use is ELECTRO MOTIVE PARTS CLEANER. Anything else and I do Mean ANYTHING else will destroy it. You can pick up a can at Advance for like $6.00 - $8.00. That said and the fact the new one is only like $2.00 more I'd have to say spring for a new one and call it a day. Do the battery reset deal and have a nice day. Oh and don't forget the beer !
Good Luck
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/\ /\ /\ Never heard of that before but if you say so.
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yeah, but if i have to replace the wiring, doesn't that mean the WHOLE engine harness ?
BTW, i wnet to the junkyard earlier, and no Cav's or Fires that had the AIT still on them......
my junkyard sucks..........................
well, either way, could i drive with it bad, for two weeks ?
And autozone said it was $16.00.........
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No you can buy just the connector and it comes with like a foot of wire atached to it so you can splice it in. Its easy. Let me know if you need any part numbers.
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Jimmaaaay! wrote:yeah the AIT is a sensor that measures the dense air coming in sometimes gets full of carbon, and oil crap it needs to be cleaned if this doesn't work the wiring maybe on the fritz replace it.
How does it get clogged with Carbon, and oil? It's on the intake? you would have to be backfiring to have that happen wouldn't you?
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Im sure its not the wiring, its probably JUST the actual IAT sensor.. it does get dirty because of all the air that comes through the filter.. Not all of it is clean.. It builds up with particals over time thats all.. I got mine out of a wrecked achieva that had the 2.4 in it..
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Silver_00ZED24 wrote:Jimmaaaay! wrote:yeah the AIT is a sensor that measures the dense air coming in sometimes gets full of carbon, and oil crap it needs to be cleaned if this doesn't work the wiring maybe on the fritz replace it.
How does it get clogged with Carbon, and oil? It's on the intake? you would have to be backfiring to have that happen wouldn't you?
How does carbon get in the trottle body the air just go's in the and then mixs with the gas? why is there a need for trottle body cleaner? yeah even with a air filter installed you still get fumes and oil carbon dust etc from inside and outside of the motor . when i change the air filter i clean the box the tube and the trottle plate and sensors. yeah its alot of work but my engine codes never pop-up anymore
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It shouldnt be building up with particles ever...
With a stock air box, and a paper air filter, this should never happen. Maybe your swiss cheesed airbox wasnt such a hot idea. lol
Rob Smith wrote:It shouldnt be building up with particles ever...
With a stock air box, and a paper air filter, this should never happen. Maybe your swiss cheesed airbox wasnt such a hot idea. lol
Thats fine and i respect you comment. But you base that with what? next time you buy a stock air filter read the box it came in After removal clean the >>bottom<< of the air cleaner box? But the fresh air comes in at the top and the bottom is blocked with the air filter? Filters stop large forms of debris but not fine or gas forms (Your sitting behind a guy at a light. You notice he is burning oil) you car isn't sucking some of the up air filter sometimes have a sign saying exactly how much is trapped with there product (parts per million) if it was 100% you would have air flow 99.9% and it wouldn't still have enough to have you car running to spec's. Air Intake Temp sensors are a what they call a Thermistor that sense temperature level changes and convert them to a voltage signal using a ohms meter you can test the sensor if cleaning it didn't help the resistance reading (ohms) should read high when cold And low when the sensor is hot seeing that you code is Po 113 the sensor circuit is at high input ..or stuck open the answer to the headliner (How critical is a AIT sensor?) It provides the PCM with intake air temp reading and the PCM adjusts the control of : Fuel flow, Ignition timing and EGR system ops if the sensor isn't working the PCM go's into Open loop mode meaning your car runs higher to prevent stalling until you fix the problem thats why your engine light comes on ..................
Or i don't have any idea of what I'm talking about and its because your box is swiss cheese...
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Jimmaaaay! <------ thank you for the info.........
To answer to all that are curious about the "swiss cheese" air box, since that happens to be brought up in several occasions, all it is, is just ½" holes drilled into the BOTTOM part of the airbox........ thats not too different than running an aftermarket intake........
The reason why i did this, is because in my Jetta, there was a pretty noticable difference running an aftermarket intake, vs. doing the "swiss cheeze" mod. Don't ask me why, but it worked. For those that are asking, well why don;t you just buy an intake, i'm gonna end up going with a turbo setup, so i really don't see a need to end up buying 2 intakes........
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There is a TSB out on these. It basically says the failure could be caused by the oils found in aftermarket air filters. If your car was under warranty, and you have a k&n filter in the factory box or aftermarket intake tubing and filter, GM would deny the claim.
Jimaaaaay!,
I dont understand where you are comming from.
A paper air filter filters much better then a cotton guaze. In fact, it stops much more then any other form of filter material. Through Oil anaylsis that i have done through black stone labs, I have concluded that a paper filter, filters far better and keeps contaminants out of your engine (which has to travel past the intake track.
If he had a swiss cheese setup with a K&N pannel, he will be filtering much less efficiently then he would with a paper and the same setup. Thats why my original comment said this shouldnt happen at all if hes running a paper filter.
Filters stop more then just large debris. They filter down to a very small micron.
The only way to get "dirt" into the engine is through the intake system, (or from combustion byproduct but thats internal). Why do you think that car manufacturers dont free up that extra 30hp by having an open end high flow filter, or a swiss cheese setup? They use the box and a paper element because it is crucial to keeping debris off sensors and ultimately the engine.
I am not being stubborn so dont misread the post. If you believe this statement to be wrong, tell me what you think because I enjoy learning on the subject.
Rob smith. It seems i was wrong with the question on the AIT and the answer having holes are "swiss cheese" < a term new to me. It might have affected the use of any filter and no I'm not here to tell anyone there wrong ..Hey to each there own right? if theres a high air flow of any type. The sensor is getting hit with cold air at all times and stays high telling the cpu that the car is not passed warm-up temps. i assumed you had a stock-box with no holes or no cold intake tube if you want to go with a aftermarket system or hole and the code stays the only thing i can thing of is maybe finding a G.M. obd.2 scanner / reprogrammer (dealer) and see if its doable.
And hey if you took the time to go to a lab and have that test done thats awesome. I work in a body shop (18 years) i use paper / fiberglass mask, Charcoal / paper and finally a fresh air body suit for painting why cause you'll die if you use a paper mask (paint spray) in a "light sprayed liquid" form will past a paper mask made for dust ..there is no paper filter that i know made for everyday gas use what i'm saying is no matter how good the filter is you'll always have some form of dust or gas getting in the tube and trottle body area it might be micro amounts but it adds up in time thus the need for (carb / trottle body cleaner) Anyone ever use this? it's used for dirt, varnish, and...carbon<<at first guess might of been the cause of the problem. Rob can ya help buzz122 on what he should do. Other than change back to a non-holy box <<lol (There's a joke somewhere in that one) or reprogram the cpu i'm stumped...
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