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is it possible to break a lifter ?
Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:19 PM
my car needs some love i know it but im getting started on it next week i juyst noticed 2 weeks ago the engine started to developpe a nice ticking sound ouil pressure is good compression is #1 temperture and coolant are #1 but it seems like the ticking is more frequent now and only above 3000 rpm BTW my engine has near 260 000 kms and its a 96 2.2 ohv with an headgasket problem who started a month or 2 ago (losing maybe 500 ml of coolant for 3000 kms)




Re: is it possible to break a lifter ?
Saturday, January 14, 2006 11:45 PM
Yup, its called a collapse, they shatter.





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Re: is it possible to break a lifter ?
Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:32 PM
well id get the headgasket fixed for one, the ticking noise could be a lifter nut backing off. thats happened to me. if the lifter broke all the way, youd have a rod beating a hole in your valve cover. id check the manifold gasket also it may be a slight exhaust leak... check that stuff and let us know how it went. good luck man...
Re: is it possible to break a lifter ?
Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:07 PM
2.4's don't have lifter nuts, pushrods, or the ability for either to go through the valve cover





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Re: is it possible to break a lifter ?
Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:19 PM
With a leaking head gasket....I think that a lifter tick is the least of your worries.
I think wet96cav hit the nail on the head there.

seeing as how you have to take the head off to fix the gasket anyway....most of the stuff that could be wrong will be fixed anyway....but don't try and tighten down any of those rockers without experience...you may do more harm than good.

I'd say to try some oil additives that are designed for this purpose...but don't waste your cash...just do the head gasket first.

Good Luck Man




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Re: is it possible to break a lifter ?
Sunday, January 15, 2006 3:21 PM
Oh and BTW if you totaled a lifter you'd definatly know. The valve wouldn't work at all.



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Re: is it possible to break a lifter ?
Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:42 PM
well shifted he did say he has a 2.2 engine and im pretty darned sure they do have lifters pushrods and rocker arms. if you really wanna get technical the 95 to 99 2.2 engine is pretty much a small block 400 with one bank of cylinders missing, almost all of the deminsions are the same... if youll notice that the 2.2 is called a 2.2 ohv, thats overhead valve, which would lead one to believe that its an internal camshaft engine that would require the lifters, pushrods, and the rocker arms.... i did rebuild the whole top end of my 2.2 last summer, its not hard at all... good luck though man. hope you get your cavvy back up and running soon...
Re: is it possible to break a lifter ?
Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:23 PM
im getting the gasket done tuesday anyway along with a port&polish .

I also have a 3400sfi head i can use the roller rocker from if its possible!

as for the lifter i wont touch them, my dad will do it, he should know how to adjust those after 32 years beeing a mechanic!



Re: is it possible to break a lifter ?
Sunday, January 15, 2006 7:39 PM
wet96cav wrote:... if you really wanna get technical the 95 to 99 2.2 engine is pretty much a small block 400 with one bank of cylinders missing, almost all of the deminsions are the same...



not doubting you but where did the other 2.2L of displacement go?

2.2 (1 2.2 ohv) + 2.2 (another 2.2 ohv) = 4.4

chevy 400 = 6.6L

6.6 - 4.4 = 2.2 (of missing displacement)?

i didn't think the 2.2L had 4 1/8" bores (or a 3 3/4" inch stroke for that matter.), as far as i can remember the only recent gm small car engine that had anything close was the pontiac iron duke. that engine, bore/stroke wise, was like a chevy or ford 302. had a 4" bore & 3" stroke.



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Re: is it possible to break a lifter ?
Monday, January 16, 2006 12:35 PM
If your taking it to a machine shop to get it p&p'ed they will take all the valves out anyway...so don't worry about it....unless your head is cracked of course from having that bad gasket for so long. It should come back from them with everything ready to go.


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Re: is it possible to break a lifter ?
Monday, January 16, 2006 8:23 PM
well i was talkin about the lifters, rods, and the rockers, but thats a very good observation on your part... thanks for the info...

Re: is it possible to break a lifter ?
Tuesday, January 17, 2006 1:49 AM
wet96cav wrote:well i was talkin about the lifters, rods, and the rockers, but thats a very good observation on your part... thanks for the info...


lol ok, you had me really geeked for a second. "wait, there's a 3.3L version of a 2200?!?!" i would have shyt if there was really one like that.



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