Well i am just wondering who uses their Jbody to tow any thing with... It might be a bit much but i am wondering if my Sunfire would be able to tow either my Yamaha Raptor (ATV.. weights about 420-450lbs+small trailer) or my Yamaha R6 (380-400lbs)
i have seen Jbodies towing small trailers around town but just wanted to see if any of you guy use yours to tow... and where did you get the towing stuff put on.. (maybe shoot up some pictures if you can)
My only problem i see is my Gravana Coilovers may not up to the task as power is no issue (
ill post the new power numbers soon for the twin charged car
) but i use my car for lots of roads trips, normally with me and 2 other people in the car plus all our stuff (about 700-800lbs in total) so i don't see why i couldn't tow a trailer + bike or atv..
The First Twin Charged jbody
blue car (R.I.P) - 240whp @7psi..
silver car - 305whp 315lbs.tq @15psi (91 Octane) or 420whp & 425lbs.TQ @20psi (94 octane+Alcohol Injection)
All dynos run on a Mustang dyno
I've been towing my jet ski for 3 years now with no problems, and I'm on AGX's and Eibach pro kit springs.
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My buddy James will be seen towing his sailboat throughout summer, I'd say somewhere in the neighborhood of 400lbs+, 5 speed Eco kicking ass-
That was with Sportline's and Koni Yellows and he never had an issue, so with stiff Gravanas I say go for it.
It looks like you've got the power to do it. If your car is manual though, avoid starting uphill like the plague. Your clutch will hate you.
2002 Cavalier 2200 5spd
Car pictured above has over 150,000 miles on it right now....stock clutch...and yes it's an '03 LS Sport. He's a driving fool, granted he hasn't been towing boats for 150,000 miles but you get the gist.
wow joe, that pic is well... just freaky. lol
Joe Schulte wrote:My buddy James will be seen towing his sailboat throughout summer, I'd say somewhere in the neighborhood of 400lbs+, 5 speed Eco kicking ass-
That was with Sportline's and Koni Yellows and he never had an issue, so with stiff Gravanas I say go for it.
that would have been cool as an ad for the cavy ... or even in the dealer brochures
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Too close to call, I know it barely cleared his LS Sport bumper which on the 03+ sits what seems to be just as low as your RK lip. The Sunfire bumper always seems to go up higher in the middle versus the Cavalier's.
I honestly would say you'd be close, but it may clear.
Joe Schulte wrote:Too close to call, I know it barely cleared his LS Sport bumper which on the 03+ sits what seems to be just as low as your RK lip. The Sunfire bumper always seems to go up higher in the middle versus the Cavalier's.
I honestly would say you'd be close, but it may clear.
what about the tail pipes? think they would gett in the way?
The First Twin Charged jbody
blue car (R.I.P) - 240whp @7psi..
silver car - 305whp 315lbs.tq @15psi (91 Octane) or 420whp & 425lbs.TQ @20psi (94 octane+Alcohol Injection)
All dynos run on a Mustang dyno
I only have a stock 2.2 with 5 speed in my 02 Sunfire, and I use it to pull my 16 foot boat. It's not entirely happy about it on the larger hills, unless I run higher octane gas (to allow it to advance the timing more under heavy load without backing off). As long as I'm easy on the clutch on take-off, I think I'll still be okay. I've been towing about 1000km per year for the past 5 summers now without problem. Current mileage on the car is 204,000km.
As for the hitch, I have a Reece Hidden Hitch (class 1). Bumper clearance may be a problem, as mine is pretty close being stock. Other hitches may be different. It only comes down low in the middle though, so the exhaust shouldn't be an issue. It may be in your way somewhat trying to bolt things in place, but shouldn't interfere with the fit.
The biggest thing you'll probably notice is braking. Keep your distance, as the extra weight seems to push the brakes on these cars to the limit. At least you aren't looking at anything too heavy.
With nothing in it, my boat weighs about 350 pounds, the motor is 145, and the battery and fuel together are probably another 75. I would guess at the trailer being about 250, so total should be around 820 pounds. It's when we load all of my family's stuff for a week at the cottage in there, and put 4 of us in the car that it gets more "interesting"...
I'll try to attach a photo. I haven't done it before, so I'm somewhat doubtful it will work.
u could try a reverse drop down hitch. basically instead of using a normal tongue and ball use one that drops down just upside down we did that to my cuz mini truck it wouldnt clear his roll pan.
John S wrote:I only have a stock 2.2 with 5 speed in my 02 Sunfire, and I use it to pull my 16 foot boat. It's not entirely happy about it on the larger hills, unless I run higher octane gas (to allow it to advance the timing more under heavy load without backing off). As long as I'm easy on the clutch on take-off, I think I'll still be okay. I've been towing about 1000km per year for the past 5 summers now without problem. Current mileage on the car is 204,000km.
As for the hitch, I have a Reece Hidden Hitch (class 1). Bumper clearance may be a problem, as mine is pretty close being stock. Other hitches may be different. It only comes down low in the middle though, so the exhaust shouldn't be an issue. It may be in your way somewhat trying to bolt things in place, but shouldn't interfere with the fit.
The biggest thing you'll probably notice is braking. Keep your distance, as the extra weight seems to push the brakes on these cars to the limit. At least you aren't looking at anything too heavy.
With nothing in it, my boat weighs about 350 pounds, the motor is 145, and the battery and fuel together are probably another 75. I would guess at the trailer being about 250, so total should be around 820 pounds. It's when we load all of my family's stuff for a week at the cottage in there, and put 4 of us in the car that it gets more "interesting"...
I'll try to attach a photo. I haven't done it before, so I'm somewhat doubtful it will work.
I'd love to see a picture of this!
here is a picture of my car 2 summers ago, i have a u-haul hitch it barely clears the stock bumper. I normally tow a 12' boat with a 5 1/2 horse outboard. Fully loaded its like 350-400 i think. Ive also pulled a riding lawn mover and a trailer with 3 couches on it. lol
I can't find clear instructions on how to post the image to appear here.
Where I tried to post my image, there is a small icon there. If I right click on it and choose to view the image, then the page comes up.
If someone could direct me to a page that tells how to do this properly, I would appreciate it. I've never really tried posting any images online - only through e-mail. I'm getting a bit frustrated trying to figure out what is probably a very simple thing.
Thanks,
John
E-mail it to me, schulte2003@yahoo.com and I'll host it and post it in this topic for you.
John S wrote:I can't find clear instructions on how to post the image to appear here.
Where I tried to post my image, there is a small icon there. If I right click on it and choose to view the image, then the page comes up.
If someone could direct me to a page that tells how to do this properly, I would appreciate it. I've never really tried posting any images online - only through e-mail. I'm getting a bit frustrated trying to figure out what is probably a very simple thing.
Thanks,
John
Problem w/ your pic link is that it doesn't end in a standard picture format (.jpg, .gif, etc.), but rather this:
HH2006/photo#5157335074268312610
So here's your pic (click for full-size)
I'd go to
Photobucket and upload there. It gives you a forum friendly link when you're done.
and
here is a brief how-to as to posting pics
Love the hauling pics
Kinda makes me feel better about going about towing stuff with my Outback if I see a Cav do it!
Here's my Cav (completely stock) with the Trailer and Wheeler, it's an Eco, with a 5-speed, I've had no problems towing, I can really feel the weight in the back though (sluggish acceleration and stuff), I usually take it very easy when towing, I also give myself lots of time to brake......
Mike.
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