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potential set up for a rip off?
Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:35 AM
hello ladies and gentlemen,

just wanted to ask your opinion on something here, because i know this has been brought up before on here with ebay and classified sales...

i am selling a set of rims and tires online at buyandsell, get to list for free on there. ive been contacted a few times from a bunch of people, more than a few times by this one particular person. we have exahnged a few email and have set up pricing and what not. now here is where it gets interesting....

below is a copy of the email he just sent me...

Hello,
Thanks for the reply and the rate given and am quite pleased with the explination that you have given me.I will pay you $400 but payment is going to be made through an overdraft money order which is going to be issued to you in your name.As soon as you receive the money order you take it to your bank and cash it,then you deduct your $400 from it and help me send the remaining money via western union to the person that will come for the pick up.I don't mind giving you extra $50 for your running around and keeping it pending on when the person will come and pick it up.
Now kindly get back to me with your full contact details below so that the money order can be issued out asap
Your real name.........
Street address...........
City...............
Province..............
Postal code............
Your phone number.............
Awaiting your response ASAP today so that i can know what to do.
Regards


im not too comfortable about this to be honest with you from stuff i have read on here before being somewhat similar in nature. now thing is, is i have another guy comming to look at them on thursday who will more than likely buy them.

let me know what you people think i should do with this, do you think i should wait and maybe contact him after i deal with the other guy on thursday?

thanks, rob.



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Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:42 AM
if you have to ask, it probably is.

in this case, it definitely is.


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Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:44 AM
i cant believe people still ask these questions. its pretty obvious its a scam. anything dealing with someone sending you a mo needing all the info should be tip 1. also the whole send me X amount back should be tip 2. anyone that says provide your real name should be your 3rd and final tip



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Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:47 AM
thanks for the sarcasm, your answer is still appriciated, even though your a bit of a prick...lol j/k



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Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:49 AM
Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:53 AM
How is it a scam? Not saying it isnt because it definitely sounds like it but how do you scam someone with a money order?
Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:57 AM
fake money order but from a real account without the funds in it....the back assumes its fine and gives u the money but holds it against your account...then a few days later when they go to clear the money order and there is no money in that account, you account is responsable and your now negative what ever the MO was worth



Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:02 AM
if i were to sell them to him the rims would not go anywhere until the MO would clear.... this is also why i like cashiers checks and stuff, you have to pay for those first and is just like an endorsed check.



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Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Thursday, August 02, 2007 6:22 AM
hey man DONT DO IT, i had posted my a/c on here in the classifieds last summer and the same thing happened to me. heres the story, well we exchanged e-mails and the guy seemed hella cool. well we settled on price and shipping and worked out all the kinks, then i go ahead and head out to college and my mom calls me saying there is a check for 3,500.00 that came in the mail. i was like WTF, at first i was kinda excited cuz i thought maybe i won something, then she said it was from that guy that i was going to sell my a/c to. well i tried to contact him and e-mail him but i never got a response so i just went to the authorities and last that i heard he got arrested for trying to "get rid" of alot of money, id be damned if i knew his user name though.





Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Thursday, August 02, 2007 9:05 AM
They did a show on it on Discovery I think. They get the money illegally and launder it through people who fall for this scam. In the end, the FBI can only arrest the person who falls for it since the other person usually has them use Western Union (which is anonymous). ie-

Someone lists an auction for a cpu for $2000
victim A sends money order for it (except it gets sent to you not the scammer)
You take your share and send the rest by western union to him
cops arrest you for scamming



Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Thursday, August 02, 2007 11:03 AM
this scam is older than Jesus, himself. Just sell them to the local guy who is coming by to look at em. This scam will not turn out good for you no matter how you boil it.


On the other hand....you have other fingers.

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Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:29 PM
whitegoose( RedR-ZedR) wrote:if i were to sell them to him the rims would not go anywhere until the MO would clear.... this is also why i like cashiers checks and stuff, you have to pay for those first and is just like an endorsed check.



Anyone with a good printer and some skills can make a fake money order, cashiers check, personal check, or business check for you that will look 100% real until it bounces in your account like a rubber ball. Even if they send you a fake money order or other sort of payment that is fake, once it does not clear YOU will end up paying a NSF fee to your bank which in most cases are 10-25$ .....







Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:38 PM
It won't even be worth the paper its printed on, so if you do have dude send the payment, either frame it or wipe your arse with it...









Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Thursday, August 02, 2007 5:40 PM
whitegoose( RedR-ZedR) wrote:if i were to sell them to him the rims would not go anywhere until the MO would clear.... this is also why i like cashiers checks and stuff, you have to pay for those first and is just like an endorsed check.


As said, yes its a scam. You can wait all you want for the "certified" check to clear or the MO....but in the end, its gunna bite you in the ass. Before this became big, my buddy did it. The check cleared...so he took the money out and sent the rest back. Then it comes back as counterfiet...AFTER the check cleared....So i wouldnt bother...



Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Friday, August 03, 2007 5:58 AM
i deal with craigslist.com a lot and that is definately a scam, i could tell just by the way they worded the email. avoid at all costs. if they dont include their name and a phone nmber or email address the first time they contact you its a scam. sell them to the guy that is coming to look at them.


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Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Friday, August 03, 2007 12:14 PM
I would love to get a guy on this... then email him back and say "my bank said it's not a good idea to use Western Union, so I had them make out a money order in your name... what's your address so I can send it to you?" Then mail them a box of human sh!t.

Unfortunately, no one ever tries to scam me this way... all I get are the stupid "I'm in Nigeria and need $5000 for legal fees to get my daddy's millions which I'll share with you"

Sigh..

...j





Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Friday, August 03, 2007 12:29 PM
is the guy from Nigeria by any chance?

they are notorious for those scams
Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Friday, August 03, 2007 12:52 PM
Tell him to send it and frame the check. That's what I would do :-)



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Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Friday, August 03, 2007 2:04 PM
its not 1 guy there are probalby thousands of guys doing this, what allot of people dont realise is that allot of times youlle get a money order from out of the country and allot of banks will hold something like that for 30 days. by then you just mega screwed.


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Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Saturday, August 04, 2007 3:28 PM
its why i like cash deals, get one of those markers to check if the cash is good. Or a cashier check or money order from a local source. long distance stuff is hard to be sure about , tell them to use payapl. do it on your terms always. never let them set the payment options
Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Saturday, August 04, 2007 5:01 PM
well as far as i know the rims are sold for $350 to some one else anyways... the guy is at the bank taking out the cash as i type....

thanks for the input everyone!

rob aka goose



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Re: potential set up for a rip off?
Saturday, August 04, 2007 7:31 PM
they must have it setup to the for sale post because ive posted my items for sale in the regionals and just got local guys , but just the other day i posted it up in the for sale section and today i got an email of the same sort.


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