Yea maybe I just haven't found it but there is a weird difference in the Second Generation Sunfires in the GT models.
What I am asking is that I have found a few not so rare GT Sunfires that actually go up to 220km/h which is about 140mph.
The reason I am asking is because all the pictures that I have looked at the Speedomoter is actually stock......I am wondering if what I am seeing is true or just a figment of my imagination.....and if so where can I find one.
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ea maybe I just haven't found it but there is a weird difference in the Second Generation Sunfires in the GT models.
Second Gen = 1988-1994 = Sunbird
Sunfire = Third Gen = 1995-2006
I'm assuming you ment the 2000-2002 body style GT.
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oh yea my bad i meant the third gen.....its just on izntrbl.com it calls these years second you know??.........but yea does anybody have a response to why this is??
Top speed in a third gen GT is 108 mpg +/- a few. The speed limiter is set at 108 mpg +/-.
i think hes talkin about the speedo in the car its self... Or am i wrong? If so i believe hes seein Black Cat Custom clusters that have the 140 MPH conversions
^^ yup^^ And your car needs it limited or knowing some of the people on here their would be a few less J's.
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this is what he is talking about
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Shifted wrote:^ The "Black Cat Conversion" is just a canadian cluster with a US gauge face. The car still speed limits at the same 108mph regardless of canada or US.
The canadian clusters go up to 140mph or 220kph on all canadian J's, not just the sunfire GT's.
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Shifted wrote:^ MPH, not MPG...
Sorry... I do that alot....
Having one of those 220kmh speedo's here in the states would turn some heads with people thinking it was in MPH. To bad I have a 97 sunfire or I would swap mine out just to mess with people.
Btw, a second gen sunbird 2.0 4-cylinder with manual tranny and some coustome intake and exaust work will do almost exacly 120mph before wind resistance takes over (with no limiter). The car didn't like going that fast though, and I returned it back to stock so the limiter worked again. Ahh fond memories, sometimes I miss my WTF Bird
Maybee someday when I have access to a track I'll find out how fast my LD9 can go, I don't want to be doing 140mph on the street, like said before, it's probably a good thing GM puts limiters on our car knowing some of the people around here.
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Note that just because the speedometer has the numbers on it, doesn't mean the car can get to those speeds.
This thread reminds me of this:
Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...
Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten?
Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.
Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?
Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?
Marty DiBergi: I don't know.
Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven.
Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.
Marty DiBergi: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
Nigel Tufnel: [pause] These go to eleven.
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Emor8t wrote:This thread reminds me of this:
Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven, eleven, eleven and...
Marty DiBergi: Oh, I see. And most amps go up to ten?
Nigel Tufnel: Exactly.
Marty DiBergi: Does that mean it's louder? Is it any louder?
Nigel Tufnel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see, most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten here, all the way up, all the way up, all the way up, you're on ten on your guitar. Where can you go from there? Where?
Marty DiBergi: I don't know.
Nigel Tufnel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?
Marty DiBergi: Put it up to eleven.
Nigel Tufnel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.
Marty DiBergi: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
Nigel Tufnel: [pause] These go to eleven.
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As far as the "just because the speedo goes up to a certain number doesn't mean the car will actually go that fast" thing
With the exeption of my Sunfire because it has a limiter (would burry the speedo without a limiter) I've only had one car that didn't have to power to burry the speedo. My 86 VW golf had a speedo that went to 120mph, and the car topped out at 103mph. Unlike my 88 Taurus that had a 85mph speedo but would actually do over 130mph wide open. I miss the good old days where you could bounce the needle off the bottom of the gauge. Like my dads 86 5.0 Mustang, it's kinda funny watching the needle bounce off the trip reset button on the 85mph speedo, when your actually doing over 140mph. What ever happened to that. Whats the point of having a 110mph speedometer, if there's a limiter that kicks in at 108mph, it just seems kinda pointless to me. Besides the fact if your going over 80mph, your not going to be looking at the speedo for any other reason than to gauge how much a speeding ticket will be.
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Wild Weasel wrote:Note that just because the speedometer has the numbers on it, doesn't mean the car can get to those speeds.
Correct. I can't hit 200mph even though my cluster goes that high:
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Thanks alot guys.....I know theres nothing wrong with just going 108mph i just thought it was wack that some australian models went to 220km you know?......
well i had a 1990 dodge shadow 2.5 auto nonturbo w/ a 125 mph speedo and it would do like 104 mph stock. when i opened up the exhaust i got it up to about 110-112 so numbers on the speedo don't really mean too much lol
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Shifted wrote:The canadian clusters go up to 140mph or 220kph on all canadian J's
Tell that to my 180kph stock Cavalier cluster.
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