An indepth discussion with a close friend about the booming population resulted in this idea. Sterilize all males at birth. At 21, the vesectomy is reversed and the person is allowed to procreate. Perhaps a drastic measure to end teen pregnancy and over-burdened low-income familes, but I feel this idea has merit. Please discuss.
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"The J's weren't designed to be sports cars, the suspension sucks, the brakes are tiny, and the target market for our car doesn't need to be able to do any more than 65mph." - Shifted
A more accurate observation has never been typed. These should be the starting points before any serious performance modification. What's the point of making a serious performer if you can't control it's power?
if you could talk people into that, I believe that would do society a great deal of good, but good luck with that...
Probably the most realistic way is to get the women sterillized after 2 or 3 kids.
Promise that forever we will never get better at growing up and learning to lie
I would for see a large growth in STD's perhaps in epidemic proportion, thus reducing the population further.
Chris
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry
Taetsch Z24 wrote:I would for see a large growth in STD's perhaps in epidemic proportion, thus reducing the population further.
Chris
so you're saying STD's are a good thing.
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"The J's weren't designed to be sports cars, the suspension sucks, the brakes are tiny, and the target market for our car doesn't need to be able to do any more than 65mph." - Shifted
A more accurate observation has never been typed. These should be the starting points before any serious performance modification. What's the point of making a serious performer if you can't control it's power?
Xavier Canon wrote:Taetsch Z24 wrote:I would for see a large growth in STD's perhaps in epidemic proportion, thus reducing the population further.
Chris
so you're saying STD's are a good thing.
feel free to debate. I'm playing devil's advocate.
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"The J's weren't designed to be sports cars, the suspension sucks, the brakes are tiny, and the target market for our car doesn't need to be able to do any more than 65mph." - Shifted
A more accurate observation has never been typed. These should be the starting points before any serious performance modification. What's the point of making a serious performer if you can't control it's power?
First, this isn't a new idea.
Second, Vaesectomies can't always be "reversed."
Third, you can't get a 100% voter turn out for bloody anything, how would this be any different?
To elaborate:
1: China has been using forced population control for at least 2 generations, and it hasn't yet worked. There is no planned parenthood agency, and the draconian methods used to curtail the population boom are meeting with... *ahem* modest international rebukes, but nothing else.
Frankly, the better way to control the burgeoning population isn't with disease, but with education and disseminating of prophilactics, contraceptive, etc. The owner of Adam & Eve adult products has (along with a masters degree in sociology and applied population control) a second foundation that provides the above as well as family planning information to 3rd world countries.
2: When a man has a vaesectomy, the vas deferns is severed, and usually, it is tied off and seals itself permanently during healing. While the initial procedure is fairly cheap, and easy to do (it's out patient surgery), it is not, however, cheap nor easy to reverse, and in most cases, a reversal surgery does not restore full function.
3: Something of this magnitude would not be assigned easily on a "free" people. Many would resist, and cling to this archaic notion that people should be allowed to procreate as they please. This kind of plan would be, in fact, very plausible in an over populated country like India and China, but in the west you'd encounter resistance like hell.
My thoughts:
- Vasectomy at birth isn't a BAD idea, but it's not a great one.
- Probably the best time would be at the beginning of puberty, with one proviso: the young man should be allowed to have semen taken and frozen in order to allow for him to father a child when he is prepared. This would seem a little sick at first, but the thing that you have to understand is that it's hedging against a botched reversal operation, or removing the need for the reversal operation altogether.
- Girls should have a similar operation (tubal ligation) just to be fair about it, also if you think about it, when a girl is born, all the ova she will ever have in her life are in her, and about 60-70% die before she hits puberty (more if she contracts some types of childhood diseases). The method of extracting a sample of the ova at birth will ensure a longer term survivablilty of her DNA.
Again, I'm playing devil's advocate here as well. I've already said that humanity is doomed, and I don't particularly want to live in a world like Gattica.
Transeat In Exemplum: Let this stand as the example.
The problem is that people this days love to have uhmmm too much "Sex"
specially in Africa where they have HIV virus problems.
I think we do need population control.
bye-bye trees and wild Life and animals
Good luck on repressing the sexual urges of the masses... Republicans have been trying that dance for 80 years.
Education is a better solution by far... and it costs so little.
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Robby002 wrote:The problem is that people this days love to have uhmmm too much "Sex"
specially in Africa where they have HIV virus problems.
I think we do need population control.
bye-bye trees and wild Life and animals
thats what i was geting at, posably lead to the end of man, if you take it ti the extrem...
Chris
"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry
i thought of that when i was 18, i am 27 now.
GAM i dont think they cut the vas anymore, i think they place a clip on it now. i could be wrong tho.
They still snip the vas, and sear it shut on both cuts.
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Mexico needs population control also, lots of poor people keep having kids.
it seems like there's more people than Jobs.
China is trying to control their population but now they want more female babies to give guys more options; its true, I saw it on TV Newsreport ( CNN or something...)
I thought there allready was a very effective means of population control. Its called
war. I know it sounds bad but think about it how many lives were taken due to war?
Now if thats not population control I dont know what is.
Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.
Mexicans have so many kids because they are catholic and they do not believe in birth control, ever seen the meaning of life? the sperm song?
Sure why not?
Hell, it's not like I can think of any other expensive/brutal sexual organ mutilation performed on infantile boys under the guise of greater good..
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once we run out of oil in the next 20-30 years completely the lack of energy to support industrialized nations will lead to a great famine which will eliminate about 4 billion so really things will take care of themselves very shortly
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Will you stop with the darn oil thing already??
no!
1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85
Well,
people kill for oil this days...
that's kinda Population Control.
Am I Right? or Am I Right?
thats only going to get better with time
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here's my thing with population control.....global warming. what if it's the earth's defense mechanism against overpopulation?. i mean, it hits 120, a few million people die...it sustains the temperature until less people are contributing to it...
On a more commical note, In america we could at least just hide some people's welfare checks in their work-boots. That should starve off a good chunk of our more parasitic population(again this comment was meant as humor
).
I've never heard of this "part throttle" before. Does it just bolt on?
