-Z Yaaaa- wrote:i honestly think the o2 sensor tells the pcm whats going on and whatever the pcm puts out this piggyback system just adds the nessesarily amount of more fuel to make it happy.
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How does our converter work?
Our converter works in concert with your vehicle's fuel trim system. Flex-fuel vehicles have a fuel trim
system with more capacity for positive trim than the positive trim capacity in a non flex-fuel vehicle. By
inserting a digital signal processor and some electronics between the ECM and the injectors, we can
add some positive trim to help the non flex-fuel vehicle reach the amount of positive trim necessary for
correctly using ethanol. This added trim, combined with what the ECM can provide, allows the ECM to
trim the fuel to reach the proper mixture for E85. Our converter has an internal adjustment which allows
it to be tuned to each vehicle and the range of fuels typically being used. We have found that a setting
of about 60% of the converter's positive trim works very well for the vast majority of vehicles and ship
converters set to this level.
-Z Yaaaa- wrote:ok ill try it and report back. thanks guys!
QWK LN2 (P&P Tuning) wrote:
14.7:1 under boooooost!!!! wrote:There are more problems than that with e85. Look into the black goo issue, it's well documented.. Also e85 is very corrosive to plastics and rubber that aren't designed for it. You will also need injectors that are roughly 40% larger. The gains you MIGHT see probably aren't worth all the extra money and work over meth injection.
-Z Yaaaa- wrote:QWK LN2 (P&P Tuning) wrote:
awesome contribution!
CHRIS.... ok, now, what part of any of this post and system leads you to believe i would not have it fine tuned on a dyno and also have the PCM tuned along side it? do you really believe that i would just bolt this on and go and hope for the best? if so, our years of chats have failed.
-Z Yaaaa- wrote:14.7:1 under boooooost!!!! wrote:There are more problems than that with e85. Look into the black goo issue, it's well documented.. Also e85 is very corrosive to plastics and rubber that aren't designed for it. You will also need injectors that are roughly 40% larger. The gains you MIGHT see probably aren't worth all the extra money and work over meth injection.
black goo? never heard of it. ill look into it.
e85 is corrosive to cars made back in the 70's and before. during the 80's the government mandated all cars come equipped to handle ethanol. the rubber since then has been synthetic.
injectors do not need to be 40% larger. 100% ethanol requires 28.5% more to work properly. this is only 85% and below.
the gains are posted all over the internet from f-body's to subie's to honda's. its a known fact, boosted cars benefit from cooler combustion chambers and the ability to advance timing further do to higher octane content.
what work exactly? you unplug ur injectors, plug this box in and hook up a ground. its that simple. then to tune it, mind you this is the ghetto way they say anybody can handle to get it in the ballpark... if the o2 sensor reads lean and throws a code you adjust the box for a richer mixture... if the 02 sensor reads rich and throws a code, you adjust the box for a leaner mixture. how is that a bunch of work?
i would still use WATER injection to cool the s/c.
no need for meth on e85.
-Z Yaaaa- wrote:what are you talking about john? its got the gm reflash. its obviously tuned. YOU, yourself gave me the injector constant to run the 42# injectors and i tuned it for them. the AFR's might not be perfectly dialed in but its safe. i beat on the car every day and put 10,000ish miles on the blower in 3 months and didnt melt the engine down so.... whats the problem, now?
tell me... why have it tuned for $300 dollars if i was just going to add more mods to it right after? please explain to me how that is cost effective? remember, i dont know what im doing... i have to pay someone to tune this.
with something as important as the tune for e85 i am shocked that you would think id just run it and let the damn thing blow. give me more credit than that john