getting ready to buy a wideband, anyone using the aem ego wideband kit? what do you think of it? is the innovate kit better to get? there both about the same price so money isn't the issue, I want a good wideband.
01' Z24 5 speed
422whp/400wtq
T4 Turbocharged
Built LD9
HP Tuners
My Innovative is good also. I have about three friends with the exact same as mine (LC-1) with no problems.
call it stupid or whatever but I like the idea of having a digital and led analog display the aem gauge has just so I don't have to worry about watching a number all the time and I can just catch a color out of the corner of my eye
01' Z24 5 speed
422whp/400wtq
T4 Turbocharged
Built LD9
HP Tuners
The innovate xd-16 has the same thing with lights and readout.
AEM works easier with HPT.... i have never got a Innovative to work right with HPT
Wrench Monkey wrote:AEM works easier with HPT.... i have never got a Innovative to work right with HPT
x2 I think the AEM PID is probably easier to setup in HPT and more reliable.
I have the LC-1 and it is very picky about grounds, just go to their forums and read all the complaint posts about it.
I got mine close after figuring in the voltage offset.
Hahn Stage II - Mitsu TD06-20g |3" Turbo-back Exhaust | 61mm Bored TB |
HP Tuners | Innovate WB02 | Spec Stage 3 | Team Green LSD | TurboTech Upper | Full Addco Sways | Sportlines & Yellows |
I love that AEM is self-calibrating and easy to interface w/ HPT. It's also generally cheaper to buy.
I believe there is a "free air calibration" procedure with the innovative, but i'm not sure what that entails. The main feature i LOVE about the innovative is narrowband emulation, and the ability to set the stoich for the emulation. You want lean-burn, you got it - just program the controler and done.
oldskool wrote:I love that AEM is self-calibrating and easy to interface w/ HPT. It's also generally cheaper to buy.
I believe there is a "free air calibration" procedure with the innovative, but i'm not sure what that entails. The main feature i LOVE about the innovative is narrowband emulation, and the ability to set the stoich for the emulation. You want lean-burn, you got it - just program the controler and done.
the free air calibration is just turning the power on for like 2 minutes with the sensor out of the exhaust. so far I am having no trouble logging it in HPtuners
Zs Z wrote:oldskool wrote:I love that AEM is self-calibrating and easy to interface w/ HPT. It's also generally cheaper to buy.
I believe there is a "free air calibration" procedure with the innovative, but i'm not sure what that entails. The main feature i LOVE about the innovative is narrowband emulation, and the ability to set the stoich for the emulation. You want lean-burn, you got it - just program the controler and done.
the free air calibration is just turning the power on for like 2 minutes with the sensor out of the exhaust. so far I am having no trouble logging it in HPtuners
Getting it to log is not the issue, getting it to log correct values is, which is kinda' important while tuning boost.
Hahn Stage II - Mitsu TD06-20g |3" Turbo-back Exhaust | 61mm Bored TB |
HP Tuners | Innovate WB02 | Spec Stage 3 | Team Green LSD | TurboTech Upper | Full Addco Sways | Sportlines & Yellows |
My AFR's are a bit all over the place between 12.6 and 14:1. I'm aiming for 13.7. I've done the histograms 2 or 3 times and it gets closer each time. I'm running N/A btw. Does the AEM take a few runs or is it spot on?
Zs Z wrote:My AFR's are a bit all over the place between 12.6 and 14:1. I'm aiming for 13.7. I've done the histograms 2 or 3 times and it gets closer each time. I'm running N/A btw. Does the AEM take a few runs or is it spot on?
It't not an issue of innaccuracy or inconsistancy, its an issue of how the data is scaled when it comes into HPT. Basically what you are reading in HPT will not match what is shows on the guage.
Hahn Stage II - Mitsu TD06-20g |3" Turbo-back Exhaust | 61mm Bored TB |
HP Tuners | Innovate WB02 | Spec Stage 3 | Team Green LSD | TurboTech Upper | Full Addco Sways | Sportlines & Yellows |
So 13.7 in the HPtuners VCM scanner isnt really 13.7....damn this sucks
Zs Z wrote:So 13.7 in the HPtuners VCM scanner isnt really 13.7....damn this sucks
It might be, it might not, that's why it needs to be setup properly.
Hahn Stage II - Mitsu TD06-20g |3" Turbo-back Exhaust | 61mm Bored TB |
HP Tuners | Innovate WB02 | Spec Stage 3 | Team Green LSD | TurboTech Upper | Full Addco Sways | Sportlines & Yellows |
My AEM works great. Only complaint is the extra 10 feet of wire I had to hide under the dash lol
