Any good GTP website/forums
2004 Grand Prix GTP (Competition Group)
SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-#30 to register on JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
tons of em. use the search on this site. anyway, here are some
our national forum is
www.clubgp.com
from there you can find local chapters, information on anything.
some of our vendors
www.zzperformance.com
www.wbodystore.com
www.3800performance.com
PFYC has a GP section, too.
any other questions, feel free to ask
Andy
it's not how fast you go, it's how you get there that counts.
ZZP XP cam, 1.6 rockers, 105# springs, speedbuilt FWI, 3.3" modular pulley, TOG headers,
3" exhaust, flomatched injectors
'97 GTP 14.06@100.6mph pre cam w/ 3.5" pulley, I/E
cool i joined clubgp.com last night but waiting approval i guess so i can start posting. I may not do any mods right now unless they are real cheap. After July next year i will start to get serious into it.
2004 Grand Prix GTP (Competition Group)
SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-#30 to register on JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
cool cool. they're great cars. just do yourself a favor, research before you do ANYTHING. and just when you've decided exactly what you want, research again. these cars are easy to make fast, and easy to blow up (not litterally blow up, but if you do things like just dropping a pulley with no other mods, it's easy to chip a piston)
Andy
it's not how fast you go, it's how you get there that counts.
ZZP XP cam, 1.6 rockers, 105# springs, speedbuilt FWI, 3.3" modular pulley, TOG headers,
3" exhaust, flomatched injectors
'97 GTP 14.06@100.6mph pre cam w/ 3.5" pulley, I/E
yeah i have heard you can't just slap mods on it. With out some research. Within the next year the only thing i may do is an intake. Any other suggestions.
2004 Grand Prix GTP (Competition Group)
SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-#30 to register on JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
intake, exhaust (at least 3" downpipe and u-bend delete), custom pcm and 3.5" pulley (the last two can be done around the same time)
to drop to a smaller puley you've gotta add things like headers, intercooler, ported blower, blah blah blah. that's when you really start gettin into the money
Andy
it's not how fast you go, it's how you get there that counts.
ZZP XP cam, 1.6 rockers, 105# springs, speedbuilt FWI, 3.3" modular pulley, TOG headers,
3" exhaust, flomatched injectors
'97 GTP 14.06@100.6mph pre cam w/ 3.5" pulley, I/E
I know Gravana is looking at revamping and getting heavier into the GP scene. www.gravanatuning.com
welcome to the GTP club
we got a couple fast 1's here in phx
Lash wrote:Just remember...
Intense sucks @$$!
yep. well, they dont suck ass. but they definetly dont make the best products, and stay the hell away from their LSD's.
Andy
it's not how fast you go, it's how you get there that counts.
ZZP XP cam, 1.6 rockers, 105# springs, speedbuilt FWI, 3.3" modular pulley, TOG headers,
3" exhaust, flomatched injectors
'97 GTP 14.06@100.6mph pre cam w/ 3.5" pulley, I/E
WORK wrote:Lash wrote:Just remember...
Intense sucks @$$!
yep. well, they dont suck ass. but they definetly dont make the best products, and stay the hell away from their LSD's.
Never had an issue with my Thrasher 'Race' Cam backed up by Comp-Cams 918 springs, Intense TI retainers/locks/LW Pushrods and Comp-Cams OE-R lifters.
Since when do you have to add headers and stuff to swap a pulley?
If you wanna get smaller than a 3.4" pulley you need to.
Been to club GTP and the 04+ is a finiky car you don't just slap a smaller pulley on there. Mod to this car is going to take thought and money to do so you don't screw it up. It is easy to mess up the engine buy just slapping stuff on.
2004 Grand Prix GTP (Competition Group)
SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-#30 to register on JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
Sound like clubgp.com is going to be another JBO but a little older crowd. BS talkers, people giving wrong info, pissing contests.
2004 Grand Prix GTP (Competition Group)
SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-#30 to register on JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
well they do call clubgp , clubdrama for a reason , lol
the boost bypass is a little more controlling then the older 1's , my friend with a 04 and a 3.4 vs stock pulley was seeing the same amount of boost and running mid 14's , then found out the boost bypass was keeping the boost at 9 , and with it disconnected he was getting 11-12 , but his milage droped around town , and he hasnt changed his driving
intense and zzp seam to fight back and forth from time to time
SHOoff wrote:Since when do you have to add headers and stuff to swap a pulley?
If you wanna get smaller than a 3.4" pulley you need to.
you doubt me? a 3.5" pulley is the smallest pulley you can safely run with both stock exhaust manifolds and no intercooler. some people can get by with a 3.4". some cant. i know a guy who's getting killer KR on a 3.5", 3" dp, ported manifolds, CAI, and a custom computer tune. it all depends on the car. some cars react well to pulley swaps, some dont. but dont go just randomly throwin on a 3.4" pulley with no tune and no exhaust work and bitchin to me when you blow it up. im not sayin it's not possible. many do it, but about a quarter of those who do hit up on KR and would be running faster with a 3.5" and more timing.
the '04+ GTP's have an even harder time running the smaller pulleys because they get higher boost numbers from a like sized pulley. 10 or so lbs of boost on a 3.5 and a gen V blower as opposed to 8ish on a gen III blower. that being said, a car running a series III engine with a gen V blower would get more power off of a 3.5" than a series II with a gen III blower and a 3.4".
Andy
it's not how fast you go, it's how you get there that counts.
ZZP XP cam, 1.6 rockers, 105# springs, speedbuilt FWI, 3.3" modular pulley, TOG headers,
3" exhaust, flomatched injectors
'97 GTP 14.06@100.6mph pre cam w/ 3.5" pulley, I/E
You may actually lose power with a 3.4 pulley without the supporting mods. KR is a killer. And it's niot all about running the smallest pully possible anymore.....more timing and a modest pulley is where it's at.
And if you plan on doing any mods....it would be a wise idea to get something (the program of your choice) to log KR with.
5pointO
oh yeah! thanks Lash!
SCANNER. you need a scanner. you MUST scan. it's one of the most important parts to modding GTP's. it lets you know what's goin on. what the car likes, what it doesnt like. and if you're REALLY car savvy, you can tune as well.
scanners
Autotap
LS1M
tuners
DHP Power tuner
HPtuners
just go onto clubgp and search for those. you'll find all the info you need. reviews, sights to buy em, blah blah blah.
thanks again Lash, cant believe i forgot that.
Andy
it's not how fast you go, it's how you get there that counts.
ZZP XP cam, 1.6 rockers, 105# springs, speedbuilt FWI, 3.3" modular pulley, TOG headers,
3" exhaust, flomatched injectors
'97 GTP 14.06@100.6mph pre cam w/ 3.5" pulley, I/E
WORK wrote:
thanks again Lash, cant believe i forgot that.
Bah! I've been around GTP's/clubgp enough to know a thing or two about them
5pointO
^^^ Yes you have just replied to your post on the Cobalt SS.
New pics of the car.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2489704
2004 Grand Prix GTP (Competition Group)
SOLD-->1999 Z24 5M-
#30 to register on
JBO
"You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people'
all the time
