I would call them up, and tell them exactly what happened. If they are any bit of a reputable company they will send you a new clutch out asap. Just make sure to tell them that they send you the parts and then you will send the others back, other wise they will forget about you once you send them the parts back. And ask if they will pay the bill for the shop fees. You need to be firm , yet friendly. Hope this helps, by the way. Some one installed my clutch and did not replace the the stock flywheel bolts and the @!#$ clutch and the flywheel were just dangling.
http://www.overkillengineeringmotorsports.com/
Liquidplamsa wrote:
This assembly never saw more than 2500 rpms and less than 150 miles.
Would seem like an installation error then. I've had mine over 7K RPM and it's never hiccupped once.
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Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Liquidplamsa wrote:
This assembly never saw more than 2500 rpms and less than 150 miles.
Would seem like an installation error then. I've had mine over 7K RPM and it's never hiccupped once.
Please describe, in exact detail, what would have to be done during installation to cause that exact failure.
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^exactly.
Faulty parts are not uncommon for any manufactured item. This was likely a bad batch or something. Just because you've never had a problem doesn't mean that no problem will ever occur with anyone else.
Call up Spec. In my experience, they have been great for honoring warranty claims. The only questionable thing IMO would be if they will cover the flywheel too.
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Let us know how it works out. I cant see that being a 'installation error', since that part is a 'pre-assembled' part, bolting the pressure plate to the flywheel would not cause that to break (on a non-faulty part that is)
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'02 Z24 420whp
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'04 GTO 305whp
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'78 Buick Opel Isuzu W41 Swap
I have only seen clutch's that don’t disengage properly to cause hot spots like that, I would say if it where an hydraulic problem it would be all the way around the presser plate, not on one corner, like this is. Looks like a machining error to me.
But what do I know.
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08
Taetsch Z24 wrote:I have only seen clutch's that don’t disengage properly to cause hot spots like that, I would say if it where an hydraulic problem it would be all the way around the presser plate, not on one corner, like this is. Looks like a machining error to me.
But what do I know.
Chris
did you miss the whole broken support part. the cast part of the pressure plate broke away from the pin retaining it.
I got ahold of spec, they gave me an RMA# and i had to ship the whole assembly out to them. They said they have never seen this before and wanted the whole assembly for examination.
I dont see how this could in any way be anything other than material failure.
like i said, they had better cover both parts.....
protomec wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Liquidplamsa wrote:
This assembly never saw more than 2500 rpms and less than 150 miles.
Would seem like an installation error then. I've had mine over 7K RPM and it's never hiccupped once.
Please describe, in exact detail, what would have to be done during installation to cause that exact failure.
Over torquing a bolt for starters.
I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
Liquidplamsa wrote:Taetsch Z24 wrote:I have only seen clutch's that don’t disengage properly to cause hot spots like that, I would say if it where an hydraulic problem it would be all the way around the presser plate, not on one corner, like this is. Looks like a machining error to me.
But what do I know.
Chris
did you miss the whole broken support part. the cast part of the pressure plate broke away from the pin retaining it.
I got ahold of spec, they gave me an RMA# and i had to ship the whole assembly out to them. They said they have never seen this before and wanted the whole assembly for examination.
I dont see how this could in any way be anything other than material failure.
like i said, they had better cover both parts.....
first i dident see it, computer at work is a little slow,
secound, the mark i saw was coused by heat..... but that was coused by that pice breaking.
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08
Sunfires... eh (Tom) wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:protomec wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Liquidplamsa wrote:
This assembly never saw more than 2500 rpms and less than 150 miles.
Would seem like an installation error then. I've had mine over 7K RPM and it's never hiccupped once.
Please describe, in exact detail, what would have to be done during installation to cause that exact failure.
Over torquing a bolt for starters.
Ignorance at its finest.
Your gonna try and tell me overtorquing a bolt like that can't cause it to snap or break something? Your the ignorant one.
It may be a manufacturing flaw but I've never seen a clutch break there that was installed properly.
I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
I'd have to agree ^^
Looks like the person that put it in overtorqued the bolt, broke it, then put it back together and thought you would never see it. Spec should cover the clutch, but the knuckle heads that did the install should buy you another flywheel.
JMO
Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Sunfires... eh (Tom) wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:protomec wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Liquidplamsa wrote:
This assembly never saw more than 2500 rpms and less than 150 miles.
Would seem like an installation error then. I've had mine over 7K RPM and it's never hiccupped once.
Please describe, in exact detail, what would have to be done during installation to cause that exact failure.
Over torquing a bolt for starters.
Ignorance at its finest.
Your gonna try and tell me overtorquing a bolt like that can't cause it to snap or break something? Your the ignorant one.
It may be a manufacturing flaw but I've never seen a clutch break there that was installed properly.
Once again, explain how poor installation would cause this error. The area that he would have bolted down, while in the immeadiate vicinity, would needed to be torqued to the point that the entire plate warped, thereby breaking all the pins, not just one. The location that did break was a point that was part of the completed assembly from Spec, and if you look there is no way for him to add additional load onto it.
A simple flaw in the batch can lead to a single point material failure, the material being from the very beginning or very end of the batch where impurities can affect the material strength can cause a failure. If it was a mechanical installation screw-up, as you have inferred, it wouldn't be a single point failure.
And by your inference you have seen a clutch break there that was installed improperly then I take it?
Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Sunfires... eh (Tom) wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:protomec wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Liquidplamsa wrote:
This assembly never saw more than 2500 rpms and less than 150 miles.
Would seem like an installation error then. I've had mine over 7K RPM and it's never hiccupped once.
Please describe, in exact detail, what would have to be done during installation to cause that exact failure.
Over torquing a bolt for starters.
Ignorance at its finest.
Your gonna try and tell me overtorquing a bolt like that can't cause it to snap or break something? Your the ignorant one.
It may be a manufacturing flaw but I've never seen a clutch break there that was installed properly.
Since I do not see a bolt related to that part at all,
and the simple fact that there are no bolts whatever in relation to the friction surface,
and that the only fasteners used for that component are rivets that are installed by the maufacturer, not the installer,
WHICH EXACT BOLT ARE YOU CLAIMING TO BE OVERTORQUED??????????
Or maybe you should grow a pair and admit your statement was pure, unadultrated, ignorance and your reason for posting it was simple ego overload.
You had no evidence of error, nor any clear knowledge to process any evidence if there was any, yet you felt you should publicly insult this guy (and/or his installer)....... Pathetic.
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Or maybe you mean that failure could be caused by overtorquing ANY bolt , anywhere on the car?
Over torque a rear lug nut ...... watch out!!!!! expect pressure plate failure.....
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I was about to say the same thing....... since you bolt down the backing plate, any 'over torquing' of the bolt would result in, well...... the bolt breaking...... The bolt doesnt put the load on the pressure plate, the finger springs do. Simply looks like a bad part. It failed.
SPD RCR Z -
'02 Z24 420whp
SLO GOAT -
'04 GTO 305whp
W41 BOI -
'78 Buick Opel Isuzu W41 Swap
Marchi1 wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Sunfires... eh (Tom) wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:protomec wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Liquidplamsa wrote:
This assembly never saw more than 2500 rpms and less than 150 miles.
Would seem like an installation error then. I've had mine over 7K RPM and it's never hiccupped once.
Please describe, in exact detail, what would have to be done during installation to cause that exact failure.
Over torquing a bolt for starters.
Ignorance at its finest.
Your gonna try and tell me overtorquing a bolt like that can't cause it to snap or break something? Your the ignorant one.
It may be a manufacturing flaw but I've never seen a clutch break there that was installed properly.
The location that did break was a point that was part of the completed assembly from Spec, and if you look there is no way for him to add additional load onto it.
Ok see that's where my mistake was. I must have been looking at it wrong because it appeared to be where he had bolted it down. My bad.
To everyone that jumped on me...@!#$ off. I made a error in judging where the part was that snapped.
I used to race cars, now I race myself.
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protomec wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Sunfires... eh (Tom) wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:protomec wrote:Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Liquidplamsa wrote:
This assembly never saw more than 2500 rpms and less than 150 miles.
Would seem like an installation error then. I've had mine over 7K RPM and it's never hiccupped once.
Please describe, in exact detail, what would have to be done during installation to cause that exact failure.
Over torquing a bolt for starters.
Ignorance at its finest.
Your gonna try and tell me overtorquing a bolt like that can't cause it to snap or break something? Your the ignorant one.
It may be a manufacturing flaw but I've never seen a clutch break there that was installed properly.
Or maybe you should grow a pair and admit your statement was pure, unadultrated, ignorance and your reason for posting it was simple ego overload.
Or maybe you should understand that people can see things wrong, like I did. I thought that spot was somewhere else. So go back to where ever you normally hide and STFU.
Yeah my egos so big that I have to say that someones installer who I've never met sucks. That makes a lot of sense jackass. If your only gonna post in a thread that I do to start a fight then be a man and bring it to me IN PERSON.
I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
protomec wrote:Or maybe you mean that failure could be caused by overtorquing ANY bolt , anywhere on the car?
Over torque a rear lug nut ...... watch out!!!!! expect pressure plate failure.....
Grow up you jackass.
I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
thanks for the insight guys,
hopefully SPEC looks at this closely , at least ill have some argument if things arn't going my way...
we'll see...
welp, that settles things. i'll never be buying anything spec.
heard about and seen far to many things gone wrong with their products-especially in the last 4 months just on THIS website.
z yaaaa wrote:welp, that settles things. i'll never be buying anything spec.
heard about and seen far to many things gone wrong with their products-especially in the last 4 months just on THIS website.
Really??? Examples please???
FU Tuning
John Higgins wrote:z yaaaa wrote:welp, that settles things. i'll never be buying anything spec.
heard about and seen far to many things gone wrong with their products-especially in the last 4 months just on THIS website.
Really??? Examples please???
shifted had problems with 2 clutches iirc, paul tjepkes had problems with his flywheel... didnt even YOU have trouble with it wanting to drive while the clutch was in? i remember reading about another guy with the same problem.
spyhunter with the beast turbo n-body has been having troubles to.
i know theres others, just cant remember at this time.
