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isuzu - getrag swap, need know if my info is right
Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:33 PM
hey

i have a 1998 cavalier Z24 with 2.4 engine isuzu 5 speed tranny, i blew my tranny a few months ago. Iam plaing on swaping it out to a getrag soon. i was looking for some info a few months ago, iam still lookinf to confirm what i was told. I will post what i have so far

dose this sound right?

(this is a note i wrote to remind myself what i need)

i need

tranny, getrag, used

axles, getrag, used

shifter, getrag, used

shift cables and all other parts of the assembly, getrag, used

bracket on the tranny that holds the shifter cables, from a 2.4 00-02 getrag
tranny, used

CLIPS THAT HOLD THE SHIFTER CABLES DOWN to the
bracket on the tranny, from getrag, used

flywheel from a 2.4 00-02 getrag tranny, used

flywheel bolts, from a 2.4 00-02 getrag tranny, used

pressure plate, getrag, used or new, (i will prob go new)

pressure plate bolts, from a 2.4 00-02 getrag tranny, used

clutch disk, for a getrag, used or new (i will prob go new)

throw out bearing, for a getrag, used or new (might come with my new clutch, so maybe go new)

clutch master cylinder and lines/hoses, getrag, used

Rear tranny mount bracket, getrag, GM, new

tranny mounts, getrag, prob used

*MAKE SURE THEY GIVE YOU ALL THE BOLTS FROM THE BELL HOUSING AND THE PRESSURE PLATE TO FLYWHEEL, AND GIVE YOU THE CLIPS THAT HOLD THE SHIFTER CABLES DOWN, AND THE CLUTCH MASTER CYLINDER TOGETHER WITH THE THROW OUT BEARING.
If you don't have these clips when you push the clutch pedal it WILL pop out of the bearing and you won't have pedal.




Speed sensors are different and you get a new one on the tranny, just tell them to leave the pig tails for the revers tail lights and VSS pig tail in there and just splice them in.


what do you mean by "SHAVING the braket a little to clear the Getrag,

Shaving I mean, just cutting a little off the edge.

If you take the driver wheel off and looking at the bracket, you need to
shave on the bottom right and the hole needs to go about 4 inches to the
left.

so a hole for the front has to be drilled 4 inchs left (to the front of the car) then the getrag mount bolts up to that right, and cut back a bit so the getrag will clear it

Yes when you DO drill a new hole the tranny mounts WILL just bolt right on,
but you still have to WELD a new REAR one.


Well see I am running Automatic center console which is cut on the side so I
can shift, but I am thinking the Gerag gears are a little wider.





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MY 1998 CHEVY CAVALIER Z24 WEB PAGE
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MY OLD CAR: KEVIN'S BLUE 1993 CHEVY CAVALIER WEB PAGE

Re: isuzu - getrag swap, need know if my info is right
Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:57 PM
Yea it is right I wrote all that crap.
I get the Kudos right??




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Re: isuzu - getrag swap, need know if my info is right
Friday, February 18, 2005 9:29 AM
how much was the total on all parts?




Re: isuzu - getrag swap, need know if my info is right
Friday, February 18, 2005 11:17 PM
yep Yasmin gets all the Kudos, that who gave me all the info

Yasmin so how is your tranny running? I still didnt do mine yet weather is snowy here going to do it in the next month and half, i saw someone on here selling a braket for the front mount why whould i need that you said that a new hole only needs to be moved over a few inchs?

a guy at a shop here said that he dosnt know if it would be worth it for me to do the swap he said that it was alos of work, he is an import guy, he said just to put in the same isuzu tranny, the isuzu tranny here from the wrecker is $1000 cdn the getrag is $450 cdn plus the other parts maybe $700-$800 total its just the labour difference fro install



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MY 1998 CHEVY CAVALIER Z24 WEB PAGE
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MY OLD CAR: KEVIN'S BLUE 1993 CHEVY CAVALIER WEB PAGE
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Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:45 PM
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Thursday, March 03, 2005 6:35 PM
Re: isuzu - getrag swap, need know if my info is r
Friday, March 04, 2005 6:32 PM
We sell the front bracket for the swap to save a trip to the junk yard. Duplicate of the OEM.



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Re: isuzu - getrag swap, need know if my info is r
Saturday, March 05, 2005 11:31 PM
The info sounds right on the money...... On my 5th isuzu tranny, i will be hopefully finishing the swap up later today....... all in all i have just under a $1000 u.s. in the swap...... doing it myself so labor is $0....... I got lucky and found a brand new tranny for $250........ it is definitly worth it, as we all know the isuzu tranny sucks....... I have extra shift cables (used), shifter assembly (used), throw out bearing (new), and some for the other parts u are going to need if u are interested..... ether way I will let u know how much i enjoy the Gatrag over the isuzu tranny when I'm done.








Dugan
'98 Z24 15.0 1/4 all motor
Member of <a href="http://www.wisconsin-js.com"> Wisc_Jbodies</a>
Re: isuzu - getrag swap, need know if my info is r
Sunday, March 06, 2005 8:16 PM
swap is done......



Dugan
'98 Z24 15.0 1/4 all motor
Member of <a href="http://www.wisconsin-js.com"> Wisc_Jbodies</a>
Re: isuzu - getrag swap, need know if my info is r
Monday, March 07, 2005 7:51 PM
dugan --

so dose the isuzu and getrag sensors use the same amount of wires and the only difference is the sensor, so can I just cut off the Isuzu one and hook the wires to the getrag one

also will using the getrag speed sensor instead of the isuzu one effect anything on my car, will the cruse control still work, abs?, air bags?, and will i get a check engine light on all of the time?




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MY 1998 CHEVY CAVALIER Z24 WEB PAGE
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MY OLD CAR: KEVIN'S BLUE 1993 CHEVY CAVALIER WEB PAGE

Re: isuzu - getrag swap, need know if my info is r
Tuesday, March 08, 2005 9:10 PM
2 wires for both speed and reverse (there even the same color) , u need to make sure to have extra wire to lengthen them. Everything should work fine as long as u hook it up right.




Dugan
'98 Z24 15.0 1/4 all motor
Member of <a href="http://www.wisconsin-js.com"> Wisc_Jbodies</a>
Re: isuzu - getrag swap, need know if my info is r
Wednesday, March 09, 2005 6:43 PM
Re: isuzu - getrag swap, need know if my info is r
Monday, June 05, 2006 8:39 PM
I know this issue has been sitting the better part of a year but I was wondering if anyone who has done this swap can post pics of the install. I'm having a hard time visualizing the holes and braackets and such.
Re: isuzu - getrag swap, need know if my info is r
Monday, June 05, 2006 8:50 PM
Also, I want to do this on a 1996 sunfire with a 1996 2.4l, does anyone forsee any problems with this? One more thing, Ic an reuse my console correct?
Re: isuzu - getrag swap, need know if my info is r
Wednesday, June 07, 2006 11:28 AM
I forsee no problems...... we also dont have any pics....... but I can tell you the front mount hole is 6.5" from radiator support weld, and the rear mount, front face, needs to be 23.75" from the same spot.




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