hey im wondering where can i find a GM performance parts supercharger for my 1997 z24. ive been looking around on the internet but i have found nothing. thanks.
they are discontinued, gms contract with eaton was over and eaton shut down a few plants last year. the one here in sidney that got closed made a majority of the gm s/c applications. so on here in the classifieds or ebay is your best bet most likely. i assume your looking for the m42 roots s/c.
a MHI 13b-14b, kkk 30-trim, airresearch/garrett T25 turbo might be a better idea for you if you want forced induction. one of the mentioned turbos in good shape and a cast manifold will run around $350-450, 390cc-510cc injectors for around $100-150, warlbro 190lph fuel pump and regulator $250-300, intercooler kit $150-200, then tuning. keep this in mind a s/c runs 5-6psi on a stock pulley, the turbos above flow up to 17psi and are efficient between 10-15psi.
yea i was wanting the roots type. the one that you could buy from the dealer. well this sucks i was just looking for a direct bolt on ya know cause this is for my DD. so alright well i might do a turbo set up im not 100% sure yet
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YOu can still get them from GM, but they never really made it for the 97, but you can still put it on it, but requires custome tuning.
FU Tuning
okay so i could just order one for a 2.4 but for like a model year 2000 or somthing and it should bolt up . and do you know the price off the top of your head or no ?
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Skyler McDowell wrote:okay so i could just order one for a 2.4 but for like a model year 2000 or somthing and it should bolt up . and do you know the price off the top of your head or no ?
yeah get the kit for the 2000-2002 ld9 if the dealer has one or can find one, its around $2400 w/o heat exchanger.
........and turbo lag is for fools who dont know what there doing and have a half-ass set up, i push 5-7psi off the line at 1800rpms and 18psi solid from 3100rpms all the way to 7500rpms... no stutter box.
okay thanks dude and that is pretty expensive lol. i could almost build a turbo kit like you were saying boost creep and it would probably be cheaper. the only thing i get worried about is like were to get the oil from to the turbo and like running the intercooler piping. but im sure i could figure it out cause there are a bunch of people doing it lol
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honestly it is cheaper to turbocharge these engines unless you get a super deal on a s/c, because the heat exchanger is an extra $300-400 for the cooler/lines/pump off of a 03+ svt cobra. ic piping is no big deal there are a few kits that come very close to a perfect fit for our cars. the head is tapped for the oil feed line, return line is tapped into the oil pan. however make sure the return line is larger diameter than the feed line, as oil leaving the turbo is a foam or froth most of the time. you dont want it to back up and cause pressure in the centersection and blow oil through the journal bearings and over-heat the turbo.
The last i knew you couldnt intercool the M45.
Tinkles
2003 Cavalier 1SV
Bagged and Blown
o okay cool cool well thanks dude im looking at turbos now and intercooler kits. the turbo is kinda hard to find cause all the turbo on ebay are kinda sketchy ya know and i was looking at the garrett you were telling me about and there not to bad on price except there is only one airresearch and it says its like water cooled which i havent heard of but i don't know ill have to look around and figure something out. and one more question my car has like 154,000 miles on it . do you think it would matter if i turbo'd it?
Turbo lag is a courteous head start
well damn what to do lol cause if the turbo kit is $500 less but i may need a welder i could just go with the s/c and get a smaller pulley to make maybe 8-10 psi and that would be good for a DD
Turbo lag is a courteous head start
Get a good sized turbo and you'll make more power out of that 8-10psi than from the M45.
Tinkles
2003 Cavalier 1SV
Bagged and Blown
Tinkles wrote:The last i knew you couldnt intercool the M45.
did some reading and i think your right, i was thinking of the m62 with the water to air ready manifold.
okay dude thanks im pretty tempted to just turbo it instead of supercharging it cause i do know all the pro's and cons of superchargers and turbos so idk im just kinda seeing what you guys think. so thanks.
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also garrett IS airresearch, thats what they were called in the 80s and early 90s
Im more than likely going to seperate my M45 supercharger kit from my motor.
Its up for grabs. Right now highest bidder (member from this site) has offered $900 plus shipping.
It has 14k on it.
so if i go with a garrett airresearch then im giong to have to run seperate cooling lines to them also. and craigm's supercharger isn't a bad deal at all. does that include everything
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Skyler McDowell wrote:well damn what to do lol cause if the turbo kit is $500 less but i may need a welder i could just go with the s/c and get a smaller pulley to make maybe 8-10 psi and that would be good for a DD
8-10 psi is probably not gonna happen, unless u do something amazing. The kit comes stock around 4.5-5psi. I know some have seen 8psi on a 2.5" pulley and others have only seen 6-7psi. I am running the 2.6" with meth and only see around 7psi. Any smaller than the stock 2.8" pulley you should really be getting meth. Even on the stock pulley it gets pretty heatsoaked. I'm gonna be selling mine in the fall when I put the car away so it will be up for grabs as soon as the snow comes and I can get it off.
well what is your reason for taking it off .. is it because of the heat that it makes or are you going to turbo ? im just wondering cause im having this debate and i know it has been discussed a few times on this site. the one thing i do like about the supercharger kit is that i don't have to build anything it is just bolt on ya know
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Skyler McDowell wrote:well damn what to do lol cause if the turbo kit is $500 less
No, there are no turbo kits. You have to piece it together custom, which is why you need to know what you're doing.
Matthew Jollymore wrote:8-10 psi is probably not gonna happen, unless u do something amazing.
Mine was at 9-10 psi on the 2.6" pulley before I scrapped the setup.
2001 Olds Alero (LD9)
650 whp / 543 ft-lb
@turboalero
right i know there are no turbo kits i just said it wrong.. but if you got 9-10 psi i would be totally fine with that .. and where did you get your smaller pulley?
Turbo lag is a courteous head start
Your can get smaller pulleys on zzperformance.com or even ebay...
