I'm currently stripping the old L61 block to be sent out with this load of goodies to the machine shop. I have a fidanza flywheel thats waiting or a new spec stage 3+ clutch (the strongest clutch currently available for the eco.. rated at 490tq).
in the picture from top to bottom:
-Darton M.I.D. (modular integraed deck) sleeve kit
-Wiseco 8.9:1 pistons
-eagle rods
-eagle crank (2.2 w/ reluctor ring)
to top off the block will be some ARP headstuds and I'm unsure of the headgasket and a few other details.. I'm still looking for a machine shop to install the darton sleeves and possibly a complete assembly, balance and blueprint to the short block
there's a few other loose ends with the block that need to be taken care of, but I was bored and felt like sharing.
I won't state my power goals, but I can assure you, its ludicrous.
comments are welcome
DaFlyinSkwirl (PJ) - APU wrote:comments are welcome
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Not much to say really other than that!
Eh...old man with a Corvette now...it was bound to happen sooner rather than later right?
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Well, the sleeves will take you into the stratosphere for power. I was thinking about getting my block sleeved and then I found out what it costs...... yikes. I'll never be making 600+ hp so oh well.
Please tell me your not going to spend the money to sleeve your block and then use HPT to control fuel and spark..... I'll cry.
Gonna be a sick build dude ......
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me and pj both are doing similar builds and we are not using HPT, we are both going full stand alone EMS
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me and pj both are doing similar builds and we are not using HPT, we are both going full stand alone EMS
.... and which one would that be?
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look up Spectre EMS.. its based heavily on megasquirt, but in a more complete package and bit more expensive.
thats what I plan on using.
HPT as well as the factory ECU are both taking back seats when this engine gets installed in the skwirl.
after the bottom end is complete, I plan on modifying the transmission and freshening it up.. then the head.. then finally, the turbo and fuel systems.
I don't want to discuss the power target, but trust me.. the sleeves will be absolutely necessary.
are these sleves traiditional style? or are they the kind that receed into the head?
also. are you sure those pistons are up to the task?
you didnt give a power goal, but if your sleeves are "a nesscary Requirment" then youll be over or around 600 (I know the cranks at 5 and the sleeves went at 6 I belive when gm did the build book. are you sure the weisco's are up to the task. turbo tech didnt give me the rating when I bought mine, and I didnt bother looking becuase I knew they were higher then I was going to go. But Im not so sure there much past 600, same goes for the rods.
I might be wrong however.
also you said nothing about the oiling system, whats the plans for that?
either way I cant wait to see it come together
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DaFlyinSkwirl (PJ) - APU wrote:I won't state my power goals, but I can assure you, its ludicrous.
That's what I like to hear. Can't wait to see how things go with it.
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2004 Cavalier
13.2@105........
Mods...
BFG Drag Radials
Saab Turbo kit
2.5 exhaust, w/cutout
Spec Stage 2+ Clutch
Jcavi wrote:are these sleves traiditional style? or are they the kind that receed into the head?
also. are you sure those pistons are up to the task?
you didnt give a power goal, but if your sleeves are "a nesscary Requirment" then youll be over or around 600 (I know the cranks at 5 and the sleeves went at 6 I belive when gm did the build book. are you sure the weisco's are up to the task. turbo tech didnt give me the rating when I bought mine, and I didnt bother looking becuase I knew they were higher then I was going to go. But Im not so sure there much past 600, same goes for the rods.
I might be wrong however.
also you said nothing about the oiling system, whats the plans for that?
either way I cant wait to see it come together
well its not a 2.4 (=P) and as per GM, the OEM oiling system should be good to 600hp. The only upgrade I plan on is bates engineering hardened gears.
if it can't do it, a dry sump is going on from www.drysump.com. they make kits for the ecotec with a pan, pump, everything you need... they made the kit for the cobalt time attack car.
wiseco rods are rated at 550hp.. I guess we'll see.
not sure about the pistons.. but again, je/wiseco/diamond are all listed so we'll find out
the MID sleeve kit is zero deck height
i may need race gas because of the high compression, but I wanted to keep this engine to available off the shelf parts.. nothing too exotic.
I've seen stock sleeved l61's into the 650-700whp power level..
Blew it up, build numbers coming soon
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PJ the most rated clutch for the ecotec is the bully stage 5 rated at 600tq I believe. =D
eagle rods are rated at 800. I had called eagle and asked them for tony back in the day, and Eagle said the eagle rods are capable of 800
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DaFlyinSkwirl (PJ) - APU wrote:I won't state my power goals, but I can assure you, its ludicrous.
Have I ever told you how much I love you?
I SATCHMOE YOU!!!! wrote:thatta boy pj im so proud of you
i think i may move in to sleep next to the beast (of course it will be between us)
Yea you can sleep next to it after i sodomize her lol
... Im pretty sure I told you through IM, PJ i <3 you and all but Im stealing the skwirl for a lil bit lol.. Its going to be sick and Im going to call up that place I told you about to see if they are willing to do it. Just give me all the info I need so I can make sense on the phone with them, i.e numbers lol
QBE (Aka Phil No More Boost) wrote:PJ the most rated clutch for the ecotec is the bully stage 5 rated at 600tq I believe. =D
eagle rods are rated at 800. I had called eagle and asked them for tony back in the day, and Eagle said the eagle rods are capable of 800
i thought they were 550? hrmm good to know. i know people in other cars (non jbody) have made a good 500whp on eagle rods and thats over 550bhp. but thats good to know that they are that high
and pj, looks good man. interested to see what you have up your sleeve. looks like your gonna be a good 10k+ out of your pocket . should be a wicked car though no doubt
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John H [CavalierKid wrote:]QBE (Aka Phil No More Boost) wrote:PJ the most rated clutch for the ecotec is the bully stage 5 rated at 600tq I believe. =D
eagle rods are rated at 800. I had called eagle and asked them for tony back in the day, and Eagle said the eagle rods are capable of 800
i thought they were 550? hrmm good to know. i know people in other cars (non jbody) have made a good 500whp on eagle rods and thats over 550bhp. but thats good to know that they are that high
and pj, looks good man. interested to see what you have up your sleeve. looks like your gonna be a good 10k+ out of your pocket . should be a wicked car though no doubt
Looks awesome! but man thats stuff has to be expensive! I wish I had the money to pour into my car like that!!! lol. Good luck on the build.
2004 Cavalier
13.2@105........
Mods...
BFG Drag Radials
Saab Turbo kit
2.5 exhaust, w/cutout
Spec Stage 2+ Clutch
