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S&G's question, GMPP Supercharger + Nitrous??
Monday, August 14, 2006 1:53 AM
Was sitting here thinking about the Eco Gm supercharger, and a thought accured. I don't recall any Eco or many LD9 guys runnning the GM superchargers and Nitrous....... Im wondering why.

I know its possible, and it is just a matter of time and money building the engine to handle the stress.... but I figured someone would have done this corrctly by now on the LD9, and who is planning on doing this to the ECo??

Im thinking a ECO with Supercharger and Nitrous would be one crazy -fast and fun ride!

What do you guys think??

And any thoughts on what a proper setup to do this would be in your minds.

Like what compression to run?
What size shot would be acceptable on stock internals?
And what size shot you could throw into a built engine w/ roots type boost??




Re: S&G's question, GMPP Supercharger + Nitrous??
Monday, August 14, 2006 3:23 AM
The biggest probelm is that you cannot run the fuel/nitrous mixture through the rotors themselves. It eats up the coating on them, and most people are hesitant to figure a way to mount the nozzles after the rotors to do a wet shot. It hink a dry shot with an HP tuners on a LD9 would be fine (built motor), but doing it on an eco would be hard to do as there would be no way to adjust the fuel as HP tuners couldn't adjust for it.




Re: S&G's question, GMPP Supercharger + Nitrous??
Monday, August 14, 2006 11:38 AM
there are quite a few guys who've run N20 and the S/C.......




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Re: S&G's question, GMPP Supercharger + Nitrous??
Monday, August 14, 2006 1:06 PM
OK look all you have to run nitrous on the supercharger on the eco is tap into the intercooler manifold that the supercharger mounts to either on top or underneath for a sneaky shot tap it into the runners if have any questions are need a visual look at the GM SS Colbalt that is track running he beat the Signal Skyline like by a couple hundreths of a second but still won the nitrous kit was built by martin technologies which the web is www.haroldmartin.com so look up the number and give them a call. But beware the motor must be built because say you run a 75 shot you may actually put over 100 to the wheels due to the heat of the supercharger. I am building a setup with the GM supercharger and i will be putting over 400 whp with the charger and a 80 shot of nitrous but there is alot more goodies like porting and getting the charger rebuilt for higher boost so all you have to do is research and all you ?s will be answered
Re: S&G's question, GMPP Supercharger + Nitrous??
Monday, August 14, 2006 4:06 PM
im running the 2.4 charger with nitrous.




Re: S&G's question, GMPP Supercharger + Nitrous??
Tuesday, August 15, 2006 12:24 AM
Marchi1 wrote:The biggest probelm is that you cannot run the fuel/nitrous mixture through the rotors themselves. It eats up the coating on them, and most people are hesitant to figure a way to mount the nozzles after the rotors to do a wet shot. It hink a dry shot with an HP tuners on a LD9 would be fine (built motor), but doing it on an eco would be hard to do as there would be no way to adjust the fuel as HP tuners couldn't adjust for it.


Hmm...... hadn't thought of that. Well the nozzle would have to be placed below the rotors then, which could be quite the issue.

hmmmm.....



Re: S&G's question, GMPP Supercharger + Nitrous??
Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:01 AM
Other comments?? I need more discussion!



Re: S&G's question, GMPP Supercharger + Nitrous??
Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:26 AM
Marchi1 wrote: but doing it on an eco would be hard to do as there would be no way to adjust the fuel as HP tuners couldn't adjust for it.


What??!?!?!?
So why could a 2.4 tune a dry shot with hp tuners and not an eco? I dont see the difference.. please explain. thank you



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Re: S&G's question, GMPP Supercharger + Nitrous??
Wednesday, August 16, 2006 9:44 AM
QBE (The Boosted One) wrote:
Marchi1 wrote: but doing it on an eco would be hard to do as there would be no way to adjust the fuel as HP tuners couldn't adjust for it.


What??!?!?!?
So why could a 2.4 tune a dry shot with hp tuners and not an eco? I dont see the difference.. please explain. thank you


no HPT support for the gm flash on the eco. Unless you make your own tune withought he reflash.






Re: S&G's question, GMPP Supercharger + Nitrous??
Wednesday, August 16, 2006 2:53 PM
small dry shot. i wouldnt chance it though unless you have a new motor ready.. it will last, but for how long?
i think low pro ran the 2.4 charger and a 70 dry shot on stock internals for awhile.

you can run a direct port as mentioned above. id be kinda leary about running a wet shot directly after the rotors.. just for the fact that theres not much time/room for the nitrous and fuel to dispiruss evenly in each cylinder.

jw james... if your planing on the gm charger.. and say a direct port kit.... your lookin at the price of a hrc kit.... with the properly build engine... power is only a knob turn away.!


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Re: S&G's question, GMPP Supercharger + Nitrous??
Wednesday, August 16, 2006 3:57 PM
Phlatcav wrote:
QBE (The Boosted One) wrote:
Marchi1 wrote: but doing it on an eco would be hard to do as there would be no way to adjust the fuel as HP tuners couldn't adjust for it.


What??!?!?!?
So why could a 2.4 tune a dry shot with hp tuners and not an eco? I dont see the difference.. please explain. thank you


no HPT support for the gm flash on the eco. Unless you make your own tune withought he reflash.


Ok so what does the GM reflash for the 2.4 have to do with nitrous?



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Re: S&G's question, GMPP Supercharger + Nitrous??
Thursday, August 17, 2006 12:41 AM
Well, I understand you cant tune the eco with HPT after its reflashed, but noone said anything about running the GM reflash.... guess I should of specified.......

John- Not really even considering this (If I GM spercharge im going for relibalility, so N20 would be out of the question), just thought it would be a good thign to toss around, lol, get people talking about it. You know, curiosity killed the eco.



Re: S&G's question, GMPP Supercharger + Nitrous??
Friday, August 18, 2006 12:40 AM
Bump, discuss!



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