I'm looking at getting a remote starter for my 2002 chevy cavalier 5speed... this is the one i'm looking at... 150206735677 (item number from ebay)
my question is would this work for a 5spd or do i need a special kind of remote starter... or just some other add on for it?? i've never put one of these in before but all the ones i look at say that they come w/ manuals to install... and there not very hard to do... is this true??
u will need a clutch bypass module it allows the remote start to start by over riding the clutch. just dont leave the car in gear when u park it or itll move when started. last thing u need is for the car to remote start and jump gears and hit another car cause if the cops find out its on a manuel ur in trouble due to the fact that most states its illegal to have a remote start on ur manuel trans. just my2cents. they work great i had one on my old car yet it was just a show car didnt get out much lol.
there isn't any module that can sense when its in gear and not let it start??
No, but there is a system from dei that you have to stop, put the car in neutral, put on the emergency brake, remote start the car, get out, and then shut the car down. This method provides a little more safety, however, it is still possible to put the car in gear, remote start it, and end up with your car in the next parking spot, occupied or not. Not a very good idea.
Kevin wrote:i've never put one of these in before but all the ones i look at say that they come w/ manuals to install... and there not very hard to do... is this true??
No.
It is not like putting in a radio. You have to locate and test wires....lots of wires.
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And some of those wires are co-located with airbag systems. Just pay the 200 bucks and have someone do it right.
AMERICONIUM (Adbot Rocks) wrote:No, but there is a system from dei that you have to stop, put the car in neutral, put on the emergency brake, remote start the car, get out, and then shut the car down. This method provides a little more safety, however, it is still possible to put the car in gear, remote start it, and end up with your car in the next parking spot, occupied or not. Not a very good idea.
Compustar and Arctic Start alarms have this feature built in. It's the only 2-way alarm I'd ever consider installing on a manual transmission'ed car. I've done quite a few of them... and they're very straightforward to install if you can find the wires.
If you have a multimeter... or at least a test light... and you've installed car radios before.... I can honestly say you'd probably have no problem doing an alarm. It'll take you a while to figure some of it out... but the best way to learn, is by doing it.
Most of the info you're going to need (wire colours, where to find them, etc) is here, or can be found on www.the12volt.com. If you PM me questions, or post 'em here... I'll pipe in with answers and try and help ya though it too...
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where can i get a Compustar or Arctic Start alarms from?? ... i've put stereo systems in i've done electrical work in general so testing wires n such shouldn't be a problem as long as i can find them...
well i found one on ebay.. number 310015901168... is this the kind of compustar u were refering to? does this sound like a reasonable price for this unit??
I got my Arctic Start from Ebay.. same as Compustar, but branded Arctic Start for the Canadian market.
Yeah, that'll work.. that's the 1 way AM frequency version. I've always gone with the 2 way pager alarms, so I know what's going on. I also don't install a siren, but I keep the pager on me... so if someone touches my car, I can sneak up on them and catch them in the act.
I have a 2W900FM-AS right now... 2 way, 2 remotes (one is a 1 way for backup purposes), alarm and remote start. Cost me ~$200 a couple of years ago.
good point i never even noticed that... it would be something i'd want (2way pager)... u said u installed u'rs on a manual?... how does that work when u start it??? you just have to make sure you have it in neutral when you get out??
NEVER EVER USE A TEST LIGHT IN A VEHICLE, they pull to much current and can possibly fry components in your cars computer or even worse set off your airbags. the only acceptable method of testing componets in a car is a multimeter, so save yourself the broken neck from your airbag hitting you in the face and go spen the 60 bucks for a good DMM, also a remote start is not an easy task to do without experiance, depending ont he remote starter there could be up to 100 wires to interface with the vehicle (usually not but there out there) and it takes the knowledge of what the wires do to interface them properly. I"m learning all this right now at mobile dynamics career collage and i was shocked at all the stuff that actually goes into a proper intall. it's crazy. so go get the pro's to do, it'll save you time and money because if you screw it up you have to pay for it to get installed anyway, and any mostake you make could cause you, or someone else their car.
Pfft... ok naysayer. We're not probing the airbag wires... they're pretty well marked in a J-car (yellow heatshrink and all). I'm an electrician by trade, and I've used a test light on cars since before I was a apprentice... so.. yeah. Besides, if you don't know 100% what you're doing you should probably have the airbags disabled to begin with.
This is a Cavalier, not a Cadillac. There are 22 wires to tap at the MOST... Way less if you don't install every feature that comes with the Compustar.
As for Kevin's question... when you leave the car, you set it to "reservation mode"... which is, you press the brake first, then pull the ebrake, then let off the brake, turn off the key, and open and close the door. The car actually stays running while you turn off the key (it's weird at first), and open the door. When you close the door, the engine shuts off. This way, the Compustar knows you're in neutral and it's safe to remote start. Neat feature....
so.. ive been looking through ebay and such and i'm pretty sure what i want is going to be the compustar 2W900FM-AS... however most i find don't say if they work on manuals or not... is the feature u just described to me come standard on all compustar models or was that something that is bought seperate??
Omega makes remote starts that work with manual transmissions as well, and there's no such thing as a clutch bypass module. It's called they wired your clutch wires together so you didn't have to have the switch engaged.
The Omega Max-E works very well with manual transmission cars. Foot on brake, car in neutral, parking brake on, you press the button, it's engaged. take the keys out, it's still running, close the door, car stops. if you open the trunk, hood, or doors, the remote start won't start.
I just bought a keyless entry setup... Is the a way I can just buy the box and antenna for remote start?? and hook it up to my 2nd or 3rd channel?? I have a manual too and would like to hear about how to bypass the clutch or what ever.... I have a really really old starter but i guess its soo old it senses for voltage spikes to say when the car is started and my dad tried it on his truck with a hi output alt. and it wouldnt start so we thought it was junk and i didnt try it...
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Compustar and AUTOSTART will both work and I have installed both on a manual.
I installed a Compustar 2-way on Garsnow's Redline
I also installed a AutoStart on a Sunfire manual.
ALL you need to do is hook up the Door Trigger wire, the Parking brake wire and for the Clutch, ALL you need to do is hook up a RELAY that is triggered by the Remote Starter itself to engage while remotely started.
Not Easy to do, but not hard to do either.
which one would work in my application?? any?
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well i ended up going with the Compustar 2-Way Alarm/Remote start AR-2W900FM-AS it was $210 w/ shipping... i thank everyone for their input... (especially John) i should be getting it by about monday... install it probly following weekend.. i'll post how it went... (or if i need more help
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John Lenko wrote:Yeah, that'll work.. that's the 1 way AM frequency version. I've always gone with the 2 way pager alarms, so I know what's going on. I also don't install a siren, but I keep the pager on me... so if someone touches my car, I can sneak up on them and catch them in the act.
I have a 2W900FM-AS right now... 2 way, 2 remotes (one is a 1 way for backup purposes), alarm and remote start. Cost me ~$200 a couple of years ago.
You could have installed the Siren, and you can MUTE the system from the remote. I mute mine from time to time. I have the same system on my DD
We do about 1200 remote starters at our retail store in PA between early Nov and end of Feb. The manual transmission remote start is not our most popular, however we still do quite a few of them. The cavalier uses a system called PASSLOCK 2 security that is in the ignition, that doesn't allow the the fuel pump to turn on unless the key is spun. Omega has a module that mocks this function thru the data wire in the vehicle and allows the car to start. The part is DBPASS23A costs $45.00. We are an authorized reseller of Compustar and Compustar PRO (www.compustar.com) and Ultrastart (www.ultrastarters.com). Both unit s are very nice, however the Ultrastart units are much simplier to install. As for wiring, you can print out free wiring for your car at www.bulldogsecurity.com and see the wire colors and locations. This vehicle would take myself of one of my installers 1.5hr to install at a moderate rate (on the alarm/remotestart system). A total inexperienced installation should be polished up in 3-3.5 hrs. We offer tech support with all products we sale, and have an impressive installation team available during shop hours. Let me know if you need more info....we have quite a few units on special right now..
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well i got my remote starter in and installed... i don't know how you get a remote starter in in only 2hrs... it took me and my cousin (who professionally installs remote starters) about 5 hrs by the time we got everything secured, heat proofed, and tucked away. i guess it took us a little longer b/c he only does viper systems and so he had to learn the wire colours and such of this unit... but if anyone is interested i've had this installed for about a week now and i'm loving every minute of it... works from the basement of a building to end of a 30 car deep parking lot..
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