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Help with trunk release/popper
Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:36 AM
I have a autopage rs 855 and well it has a out-put for my trunk.But i was told i need a relay because it draws to much current.

i want to know if someone has a diagram of what pins i use on the relay if i need one

Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Tuesday, November 29, 2005 7:05 AM
if the alarm has a negative output, you want to hook the alarm output to pin 85, 12V to 86 and 87, and connect the trunk solenoid to pin 30. this is for a SPDT relay.
Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:57 AM
Thanks alot yes i'll be using a spiked relay thow, and i thought when you use one off those 86 is always ground???

and when you say 12v to 86-87 you mean you want me to jump it from pin to pin
Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:25 AM
Yes, just connect a positive 12 volts to 86, and then jumper the 86 pin to the 87 pin. That way they will both be getting +12 volts.



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Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Friday, December 02, 2005 7:52 AM
So this is how it should look



I don't know why i don't understand it,but the black/white truck wire has to be cut in half right???,so what pin does the other half contact onto.To make it a complete circuit

This is what i think


Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Sunday, December 04, 2005 5:59 PM
TTT
Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Sunday, December 04, 2005 7:53 PM
You don't cut the trunk wire. You splice to it.





Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Monday, December 05, 2005 7:54 AM
Lenko, John Lenko wrote:You don't cut the trunk wire. You splice to it.


How do you splice to it without cutting it? Magic?




Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Monday, December 05, 2005 7:55 AM
LOL, splicing involves cutting. I think he means strip the trunk wire, and then solder the other wire on to it.



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1999 Cavalier Z24 Supercharged
1999 Grand AM SE (Beater Car)
1997 GMC Sierra
2007 Honda CBR 600RR
2005 Honda TRX450R
Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Monday, December 05, 2005 1:20 PM
I've got the answer for you. I'm assuming by how you're talking, that you have some sort of trunk release button already inside your car. If thats the case. When you cut the wire going to the trunk popper, the wire on the side of the trunk popper connects to 30, the other side will connect to 87a. (N/C) means normally closed, so when a current goes to 87a it passes right through to 30. So that way you're interior trunk release button will still work, and when you press the button on your alarm, it'll open the trunk as well.
Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Monday, December 05, 2005 3:10 PM
cmunn99gt wrote:I've got the answer for you. I'm assuming by how you're talking, that you have some sort of trunk release button already inside your car. If thats the case. When you cut the wire going to the trunk popper, the wire on the side of the trunk popper connects to 30, the other side will connect to 87a. (N/C) means normally closed, so when a current goes to 87a it passes right through to 30. So that way you're interior trunk release button will still work, and when you press the button on your alarm, it'll open the trunk as well.


No i don't my friend,the only way for me to get into my trunk is to either use the key-less entry are the key.I really don't know why i don't have one when basic cavys have them and if the Z24 was high-end back then,i would have one.

Thanks for clearing that up Lenko, John Lenko,i was to the understanding that i had to cut it in half and then when everyone was saying how to do that relay i was wondering where the other pieace wen't

so just t-tap it

so this is the wire i need



Mind the wireing please

Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Tuesday, December 06, 2005 10:45 AM
Wild Weasel wrote:
Lenko, John Lenko wrote:You don't cut the trunk wire. You splice to it.


How do you splice to it without cutting it? Magic?


Ok, tap it then. This is what I mean:



Don't cut the original wire... just cut off some of the insulation, twist the new wire to it, and solder it on.





Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:03 AM
Thats what i call a t-tap
Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:31 PM
i do this all day eveyday.....what year is your car so i can look up your wiring info and make you a fool-proof diagram


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Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:37 PM
ok, now im confused.......is it the park ave?


mecp certified installer#39272

Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 5:56 PM
Those are old cars

this is what i drive now and im doing the install on

http://www.cardomain.com/id/black_z24_14

also can you help me on this

http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=4&i=113637&t=113637
Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:13 PM
Trnk Release BLACK/WHITE (+) AT MODULE IN LEFT SIDE OF TRUNK

there will be more be patient...


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Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:15 PM
LF Latch LIGHT GREEN/BLACK (-) AT BCM MODULE TO LEFT OF STEERING COLUMN BEHIND DRIVERS SIDE DASH

RF Latch LIGHT BLUE (-) AT BCM MODULE TO LEFT OF STEERING COLUMN BEHIND DRIVERS SIDE DASH


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Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:21 PM
i know i found the light blue coming in the doorjamb also on pass side


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Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:24 PM
im working on a pic 4 u, give m e a bit- heh, i could do it faster than i can show you here! he he he!


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Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:31 PM
andy czarnecki wrote:Trnk Release BLACK/WHITE (+) AT MODULE IN LEFT SIDE OF TRUNK

there will be more be patient...



if i remember right, you should be able to get that wire at the release button also


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Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:17 PM
sorry, im back. when you have a house....nothing is evar done!
ok, relays are simple once you understand.
85 is always (-)
86 is always (+)
87 is input
30 is output
there is a definite lack of correctness in terms there, but i want you to understand as easy as possible.....ok, moving on
as you can see 85/86 are a motor that moves a switch
30 rests on 87a
once power is applied 30 contacts 87
you can pretend 87a doesnt even exist for this one
one of 85/86 has to be powered alltime. you have a (-) trigger here--autopage trunk pop--
so we will power the opposite side of the motor (85/86) remember 85-/86+ always?
trunk pop wire goes to 85
powering opposite motor side alltime>>12volts+ goes to 86
the wire from your alarm is a momentary pulse so the only time the relay will be active is when it completes the circuit(pulses)
for our puposes here, we'll say 30 is always out put. what do you want to do? pop trunk.
so tie trunk pop wire into 30
now you can see from the picture that 30 and 87 contact when the relay is powered...we have output, now input. we want to send 12v+ to the trunk pop wire, so connect 87 to 86.
you are just sharing the alltime 12v+ that there already



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Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:23 PM
if this were true i'd be all "WATCH OUT chris angel!!"


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Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:48 PM
ok, the last one shoulda been a quote, about the dude asking "how do i do it w/out cutting the wire, magic?"


mecp certified installer#39272

Re: Help with trunk release/popper
Thursday, December 08, 2005 7:16 AM
heh.

I just use butt connectors. Cut the wire in half. Put one end in one end of the connector. Put the other end and the wire I'm "splicing" in into the other end.

I don't do solder.






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