Anyone install these? Any Opinions?


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spark springs are a waste not worth the 30 bucks



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I've got them installed. No idea if they're of any benefit but I imagine they must be, even if just in terms of efficiency.

They're the equivilant of having upgraded spark plug wires.

Now I doubt I'd have paid $30 for them. I got them free.

I got rid of all that and went with an outboard ignition system instead.
The power increase was much improved and spark efficiency improved as well.
The gas mileage increased and am taking it to the track to see how much it really helped.
Here's a pic of the work done.





Yup, a vast improvement from the stock setup and am glad I did it.
Misnblu



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Thank you Dave and JBO!

not to thread jack.... but i would really be interested in seein how you did that... and...




what is that that i circled in the above pic?


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that looks nice. how u do that and how much it cost ya?

how did u u that and wat gain did u get out of it cause i saw it on hahn racecraft's cavalier and it was runnin high 11's wit turboand stock intenals and fiberglass body and had the same thing u had in yours. i wanted kno kno wat parts u used and was it worth it??

It was custom fabricated using the DIS coils from a '95 2.2 OHV engine. The Ignition module from the DIS system was gutted, custom wired internally to use the factory 5 and 2 pin plugs and was done originally for an aesthetic appeal but turned out to be a performance gain for the 2.4 LD9 engine.
I'm really surprised that nobody has done this for the performance apsect of it,.
I'm doing a complete write up on what was done, what parts were used in the modification, and the cost including the spark plug wires which were custom cut was about 125.00 bucks total.
DIS coil assemblies from the junk yard will vary which will vary your overall cost but is well worth the cost for the performance increase.
I'm going to the track tomorrow to see what this mod has done for my overall et and with the butt dyno, I can tell you it's faster than before. I hope to prove that tomorrow at the track.
The only drawback with going to the track is that the downpipe on my car is 1-7/8 which the muffler shop really screwed me on. I didn't realize this, added a bunch of mods and never got faster where I should've where it not for the restriction in the downpipe.
I still hope to see a better 1/8 mile and should see my best et equaled or beat with my runs tomorrow. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
If you're not afraid to do some minor fabrication, altering and know how to read a wiring diagram and schematics, should be no problem to duplicate for any 2.4 owner.
I've actually hesitated in posting this as I wasn't sure how this would be taken, with open arms or wrenches thrown at me.
This setup is well worth the 3 weeks it took for me to figure out, reading schematics and doing the research. There was another 3 weeks getting all of the components, pulling parts, and then fabricating, putting it all together.
Well worth it and the best mod for the 'blu yet.
I'll have the writeup posted on my website and the DSCTunerhaven.org website by the end of next week.
I'm sure there's room on the .orgs library for this too as this is something GM should've done instead of the silly setup with the IDI cover. I love the way engine looks without the cover and this was my main reasoning to do this.
Misnblu
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Thank you Dave and JBO!

Btw, I didn't see that circled picture but I'm imagining that you're talking about the heat sink near the DIS coils.
That's the stock Ignition Control Module from the engine and was removed from the IDI cover, heat sunk and bracketed to the Brake balancer. I used a heatsink from a CPU setup as this would be the best way to extract heat from the ICM and better than the factory setup for heat sinking.
Misnblu



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Thank you Dave and JBO!

I have them, car seemed to run smoother at idle with them. I feel they are worth the price. most people spend more than that on other mods that do not do anyhting at all. All the little things is what adds up.



FU Tuning

On the subject, I had them too but really didn't notice any gains to speak of.
The material made them worth getting and resistance was 10 times lower than the factory springs so they were as good as you're going to get for the springs/ booties.
You'll never have to worry about them corroding or rusting so they are definitely worth ever penny for the springs and booties.
Misnblu


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Thank you Dave and JBO!

You can get the same things off ebay for less than $10.
Well worth the money!



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I am looking for this as well.
In the past, when puting less resistence you had a chance in loosing reception with the radio or you would hear static. Car guys, you know what I mean.

Do the RKS boot owners have this happen to them?





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Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:I am looking for this as well.
In the past, when puting less resistence you had a chance in loosing reception with the radio or you would hear static. Car guys, you know what I mean.

Do the RKS boot owners have this happen to them?

Never had an issue with reception after installing them. I wonder if the insulators make that a non-issue or something. I dunno.

My reception is kinda mediocre now though since my antenna is sitting in the trunk and I still haven't got around to ordering a new one.

i am realy intrested in the that!!!! try to help me out and tell me everything you need Misnblu!! wat u run in the track? and how big od diff. did u feel???

I have some i can sell u for 10-15 dollars, i bought em but they didnt fit my car, if u want em let me know or email me, they're in the classifieds for 20 but ill give u a deal

Well, I went to the track last night in expectations of breaking my best of 15.631.
I was close, 20 thousands close but not close enough.

I've come to realize that the downpipe is my limiting factor to getting fast and proves the old theory of exhaust flow and restrictions.
Even though the car has more power with the new ignition system, would never get past the 87mph barrier or my 15.6 barrier.
Up to 3/4 throttle, the car is a beast. Full throttle is no better than 3/4 and is extremely limiting on the top end and all through the rpms.

My times for the night were:
2.24 60ft time, 9.99 1/8 mile w/68.80 speed and a 15.6964 for the et.
2.25 60ft time, 9.97 1/8 mile w/68.52 speed and a 15.6581 for the et.
2.27 60ft time, 10.01 1/8 mile w/ 69.52 speed and a 15.69 for the et.
2.21 60ft time, 10.02 1/8 mile w/ 68.78 speed and a 15.73 for the et.
My trap speeds were 87.92, 87.45, 87.36, and 87.72.
I launched 2500rpms on the last run as an all out effort to break my et record and came away with an good 60 foot time. The car felt great on the run, shifted superbly (thank you autotransinterceptor), and still came away with no record.
It was 72 degrees with about 60 percent humidity and I had the back seat pulled with my woofer box pulled too.
Mind you, that when I got the 15.631 record, I had no carpet, no passenger seat, along with the no spare tire and the items listed above.
I could've broke the record if all that was done but know I can do it with just the minor items pulled.

I'll give kudos to Chevrolet to making one heck of a strong engine and tranny for the Cavaliers. 148,000 miles and still able to pull of good times with it.
There's no faster Cavalier running that I know of so it makes ppl look when I run there. I like that.

In a few months, I'm getting rid of the restrictive down pipe that is keeping me at the 15.6 range.
I'ts been over 2 years ago that I ran that time and with all of the new mods added since then, should realistically be doing 15.4's or better.
I know this and am very aggrevated that the muffler shop would do this knowing that I was specific in my needs for the right size piping.
Consequently, I no longer give them good reviews and never send anyone their way for muffler work.

If anyone has had this happen to you then you know what I'm going through right now. Not having the money to fund the full exhaust I want right now (paintball team needs me) will keep me slow and ashamed that when I tell all of what's been done to have such terrible (not really, but you know what I mean) times.

Dang, another long post.

The lesson here is that if you get muffler and exhaust work done, to check it before you leave the muffler shop to make sure you don't go through this heartache yourself.
Now I have the stigma of going to the track and remaining forever at the 15.6 level.

Oh, did I tell you I still had fun??
I'd seen some nice Imports at the track too.
It's the only place where you can go to see the real times of cars you'd think were faster.

James

Full write-up is in the works, nearly complete and will have posted up by next week.
Even though my times didn't reflect what I know is a better ignition system, I'm keeping the setup, changing the downpipe and going to prove it that it works.
Besides, it's priceless to see the Import guys shake their head when they're looking at your engine bay, wondering what engine is in there. lol


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Thank you Dave and JBO!

I had to bring this back up from the dead, but umm after I installed the springs, the directions say zip tie the nylon isolation sleeves over the spark plug boot.. Ok, I did that but the idi cover doesn't sit far enough down in the spark plug holes because of the zip tied isolation sleeves ... Did you guys even use these sleeves around the spark plug boots, or not?

Thanks.











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Even though the car has more power with the new ignition system, would never get past the 87mph barrier or my 15.6 barrier

Then your car does not have more power. HP is shown in MPH. I really doubt any power is made by going to a spark plug wire set-up. Just the same as the spark plug boots do not make power either. Just allows things to run better. Funny how some people go to wires when GM higher HP motors went away from wires.

Also I did not uise the zip ties. I put the boots over the stock ones and that was it.



FU Tuning

^^Thanks John, meaning you didnt use those nylon sleeves either right?











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WHITECAVY wrote:^^Thanks John, meaning you didnt use those nylon sleeves either right?

No I used the orange sleeves, I just did not attach them with anything. I put the boots over top the stock boots and put it all together.



FU Tuning

John, an update on the car is due.
The ignition system has been flawless and found two areas of restriction keeping my times down in the 1/4 mile.
First, the air filter that RK Sport sells along with the RKSport cai tube is a piece of dung.
Having had it for over 4+ years, thought it was the shiznit but every time I cleaned it, noticed it was collapsing the pleats because it wasn't handling the air flow.
I've since replaced it with a K&N# E1006 filter and found my top end has improved nicely and roll on is improved as well.
I would've been to the track since the filter change but having to replace both tie rod ends, both lower ball joints, and now the wheel hub assemblies on both sides of the front end, has kept me from hitting the track to break the 15.6 barrier.
I'm picking these pieces up tomorrow and installing them in the next couple of weeks when I have time from my paintball practices with my team, training, etc.
Once done, will take her to the track and should have no problem with breaking the longstanding time of 15.6.

I've had alot of flack with the ignition system of mine so have kept things hush about it and like everybody claims, you can't make a claim of more power without proof like dyno numbers, etc. I've pretty much given up with making those claims but still marvel at the sight of what's been done, power improvement or not. It's something that I've done with my very own hands and has been flawless.

Lastly, I did use tie wraps on the booties when I had those and had no problem with putting the IDI cover back onto the engine. Yeah, it was a bit to push it down but never had an issue with it once on.
Either way, shouldn't matter whether you use them or not, it's just helps to keep them retained to the housing.

Misnblu





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Thank you Dave and JBO!