Lanman31337 wrote:You have a 5 speed auto?
Yes I was thinking the same thing.
Congrats on the win.
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Madjack wrote:Like I said before, building an engine like ours (2.2 or 2200) is a painstaking chore , since there is so few custom made parts. It's frustrating to me too, but that's what I like about doing this engine, it's the challenge.
My Ford Explorer has a "5 Speed Auto" which consists of 4 shifts and a lock up torque converter = 5 speeds. FORD advertises it as a "5 Speed Auto"
My Cavalier has 4 shifts and a then a lock up torque converter == 5 speeds. GM used to advertise them as 4 speed autos ignoring lock up, I don't know how they advertise them today.
If the engine goes through 5 speed ranges during acceleration then it has 5 speeds in my book.
That's just the way I look at it.
yomv
Brad
Oh thats right forgot about the torque converter. Well if you wanna get technical its not actually another gear , but it seems like you know this so I wont bust your chops for it.
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Madjack wrote:Like I said before, building an engine like ours (2.2 or 2200) is a painstaking chore , since there is so few custom made parts. It's frustrating to me too, but that's what I like about doing this engine, it's the challenge.
The Ford Explorer transmissions (the newer ones anyway) actually do have five GEARS. A torque converter engagement does not count as a "shift" or a "speed". My Cadillac and Caravan both have four forward speeds. Both of them can lock the torque converter in either 3rd or 4th gears. That doesn't make them 6-speed transmissions. They're both 4-speed automatics.
Jason
North Carolina
1997 Cadillac SLS (147k miles)
2003 Dodge Grand Caravan (50k miles)
if you consider that the TC could lock up in every year you've got an 8 speed
and BMW thinks they have a marketing dept.
14.82 @ 97 mph
Wow thats a whole lot of shifting! But congrats again dude!
Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.
I agree it does not have 5 gears. But it does have 5 speeds. My tachometer drops five times when building up to highway speeds. I'll check on my Ford transmission though, I though it had a lock up torque convertor like my Chevy.
Anyway, it's all in how you word your statement, just like advertising!
Thanks for the congrats guys.
4 gears + Lock up = 5 "speeds"
Old Wolf wrote:I agree it does not have 5 gears. But it does have 5 speeds. My tachometer drops five times when building up to highway speeds. I'll check on my Ford transmission though, I though it had a lock up torque convertor like my Chevy.
The Ford transmission does have a lockup torque converter. Almost all transmission since the 1980s have had lockup torque converters. The manufacturers do not count them as "speeds". If it has 4 forward gears, it's a 4-speed transmission. If it has 5 forward gears, it's a 5-speed transmission, whether or not it has a torque converter.
The only notable exception (and it's not really an exception I don't guess) I know of is a Chrysler transmission that Jeep (and maybe other Chrysler divisions used). It actually had 2 second gears. It would use one ratio for normal acceleration, and another ratio when you floored it. Chrysler called it a 5-speed transmission. And technically, it did have 5 speeds, but it would only use four at a time.
Jason
North Carolina
1997 Cadillac SLS (147k miles)
2003 Dodge Grand Caravan (50k miles)
