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5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:00 PM
This is the rumor C&D is spreading.
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News flash: Hyundai’s 5.0-liter V-8 makes 429 horsepower. In your face, Mustang! Okay, nobody from Hyundai actually said that about Ford or its iconic pony car. In fact, Hyundai’s figure isn’t even a certainty. It’s an unofficial estimate given to me (and the rest of the media assembled in South Korea to drive the Sonata hybrid and 2.0T) by an engineer at the company’s R&D center.

Hyundai America won’t give us an official comment, but here’s the data I gleaned during Hyundai’s powertrain development tour. The 5.0-liter Tau engine is essentially a bored-out, direct-injection version of the 4.6-liter V-8 currently found in the Genesis sedan. Bore increases to 96 mm, an increase of 4, while stroke stays the same at 87 mm. Output figures, and remember that these are estimates, are 429 hp at 6500 rpm and 376 lb-ft at 5000 rpm with an 11.5:1 compression ratio. That not only beats the Mustang GT, which gets 412 horses from its rowdy 5.0-liter V-8, it’s a kick in the teeth to Infiniti’s 420-hp 5.6-liter. The current 4.6-liter Tau makes 375 hp and 333 lb-ft.

The newest Tau will come mated to an eight-speed automatic designed and manufactured by Hyundai. The transmission is itself an impressive feat; Toyota and ZF are the only other companies to put so many ratios in one bell housing. Again there’s no official confirmation from Hyundai, but the 5.0-liter GDI (that stands for Gasoline Direct Injection) could arrive on our shores in the Genesis sometime in mid-2011. It’s also safe to assume that it will eventually make its way under the hood of the upcoming Equus.

Story.



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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:58 PM
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:The newest Tau will come mated to an eight-speed automatic designed and manufactured by Hyundai.


dear lord why? oh, wait, hyundai.



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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Thursday, June 24, 2010 5:49 AM
Damn an eight speed auto? Thats tits



Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Thursday, June 24, 2010 6:03 AM
I already have too much fun racing the V6. Damn the v8


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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Thursday, June 24, 2010 6:49 AM
Eight speed transmissions? They should of worked up some sort of CVT trans on that 420 hp bad boy instead. That would of been pretty insane.
Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:00 AM
auto? no thanks.



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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:02 AM
This I wouldnt mind seeing them actually do.


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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:41 AM
Wow!!! cant wait to see it



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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Thursday, June 24, 2010 2:52 PM
LOL. I don't get this whole 5, 6, and 8 speed auto thing. They've been getting more power, and flatter torque curves from the engines via all the technological improvements to electronic control, which eliminates the need for so many gears. I think it's become more of a pissing contest than anything. The CVT, although partially designed to accomplish a similar thing to having more gears, at least has the distinction of feeling smoother than a transmission with a defined gear set.





Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:10 PM
sorry when it comes to V8s id never buy anything japanese



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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Thursday, June 24, 2010 8:49 PM
375+ AWD Coupe and I'm sold!






Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Friday, June 25, 2010 12:37 AM
Rodimus Prime wrote:sorry when it comes to V8s id never buy anything japanese


thats good... since these are Korean lol



Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Friday, June 25, 2010 5:29 AM
azncav wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:sorry when it comes to V8s id never buy anything japanese


thats good... since these are Korean lol


beat me to the punch




Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Friday, June 25, 2010 5:31 AM
Wont be long till Hyundai makes a super car. I'm curious on what it will look like and what the cost will be with a 10/100,000 mile warranty



Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Friday, June 25, 2010 7:19 AM
azncav wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:sorry when it comes to V8s id never buy anything japanese


thats good... since these are Korean lol



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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Friday, June 25, 2010 7:28 AM
Rodimus Prime wrote:sorry when it comes to V8s id never buy anything japanese

If he's Stupid about everything else does it really shock anyone that he's totally stupid about geography too?



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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Friday, June 25, 2010 6:58 PM
korean, japanese, makes little difference

The best V8s have and always will be American



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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Saturday, June 26, 2010 6:50 AM
Rodimus Prime wrote:korean, japanese, makes little difference

The best V8s have and always will be American


Spoken like a true hillbilly...


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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Saturday, June 26, 2010 9:21 AM
Rodimus Prime wrote:korean, japanese, makes little difference

The best V8s have and always will be American


Chinese, Japanese, dirty knees, look at these ( . )( . )

but an 8 speed tranny? geez



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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Monday, June 28, 2010 4:29 AM
Rodimus Prime wrote:korean, japanese, makes little difference

The best V8s have and always will be American


the best V8's are Italian




Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Monday, June 28, 2010 7:11 AM
If they lasted 100,000 miles yes, but they dont

Read about that guy that put 90,000 miles on a lambo now the motor is cooked? I know of a guy on the GTA Trans AM forums that got 305,000 miles out of an old TPI motor



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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Monday, June 28, 2010 7:37 AM
Rodimus Prime wrote:If they lasted 100,000 miles yes, but they dont

Read about that guy that put 90,000 miles on a lambo now the motor is cooked? I know of a guy on the GTA Trans AM forums that got 305,000 miles out of an old TPI motor


Are you forgetting the fact that there are junkyards FILLED with spare parts for old TPI's?

And there are not junkyards filled with old lamborghini motors to be picked for parts?

Apples and oranges.....But I wouldn't expect you to know this.

:Edit:

I would also have to say that there was some sort of operator negligence playing a part in that motor blowing at 90k.


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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Monday, June 28, 2010 7:47 AM
Rodimus Prime wrote:sorry when it comes to V8s id never buy anything japanese


funny but you'd drive a turbo 4 banger from Sweden, in a car that originated from the European market. All dumbed down for Americans.








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Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Monday, June 28, 2010 6:13 PM
i highly doubt the lambo owner even cared about maintenance lol. hell if it blows buy a new one. one 300k v8 wow. plenty of motors American or not have gone way over 300k.



Re: 5.0L V8 for the Genesis
Monday, June 28, 2010 7:38 PM
8 speed auto...sounds like Hyundai would be trying to copy the likes of Mercedes-Benz and other luxury name plates. While this car would have more power I bet it would cost more than the cars it's meant to compete against, which could hurt sales if it ever became a reality.
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