HE CANT DRIVE THE VETTE! grinds and misses gears etc, horrible comparison.
Put the extra $60,000 into the Vette and we will have a different story. Bad day for the Vette even worse driver. We all saw the 10.XX that a stock Vette did with DR's.
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What's the big deal with leaf springs? Every British show that looks at the Corvette always brings that up!
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he's shifting with his right hand which he's not used to...
that and he's launching the porsche at 5k rpms and it sounds like he's barely at 2k when he launches the vette (of course 5k in the vette would be a smoke show and nothing more)
even so, he has no clue how to drive the vette.
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HE CANT DRIVE THE VETTE! grinds and misses gears etc, horrible comparison.
Funny I didn't here him grinding or missing gears when they were racing, must have missed that with the volume up all the way.
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What's the big deal with leaf springs? Every British show that looks at the Corvette always brings that up!
They bring it up all the time because they are used to cars that have modern suspension and when they get a car that is the top the manufacturer puts out they are amazed at the stone aged technology. The porsche is much more modern, hence much higher price. Leaf springs were used on model T's and were very common on cars upto the 1970's. When more modern ways of doing suspension came along
The Corvette could be a much more amazing car than it already is, but GM just will not stop building their cars to price
The corvette to date has molested TO many cars on Top Gears wall time wise. AS ANTIQUE you call the suspension on it... IT is still one of the fastest cars on the road and THRASHES a lot of European super cars.
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I give up...
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oh no!
Nothing can be better then a Vette. Its bs
Darkstars wrote:oh no!
Nothing can be better then a Vette. Its bs
no joke guys, there may be a little stupid gm bias in here if you really think that the vette is a better car
indibluemini3 (aka navycav3) wrote:Darkstars wrote:oh no!
Nothing can be better then a Vette. Its bs
no joke guys, there may be a little stupid gm bias in here if you really think that the vette is a better car
Vette is the BEST car ever
-dan
The vette is the best value for the money. Of course the porshe will have better suspension technology and a better build, you get what you pay for. But in the hands of the right driver these cars come down to a drivers race.
I LOVE the new Porshe however!
But the first time I drive the new zr1 im sure I'll be back in vette heaven again =) I do agree however that the vettes suspension needs to change, I even hope and pray to see an AWD vette someday but I won't hold my breath!
indibluemini3 (aka navycav3) wrote:Darkstars wrote:oh no!
Nothing can be better then a Vette. Its bs
no joke guys, there may be a little stupid gm bias in here if you really think that the vette is a better car
yeah but what does any of that prove? no one is say that it is a better car, but they just calculated a 1.5 sec off estimated time...?
Ive seen the numbers. and the videos the vette lives up to claim, so something was up.
Didnt he say he turned traction control off?
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Jason wrote:Put the extra $60,000 into the Vette and we will have a different story. Bad day for the Vette even worse driver. We all saw the 10.XX that a stock Vette did with DR's.
I raced against the guy at my bonderant racing school who did the 10.98 in his bone stock Z06 let me tell you this guy can drive!!! he also owns a the same porshe that was in this video and he even told me he can run faster times in his vette..
i would definatly have to agree that was the worst test ever!!
also id take our Z06 with just $50,000 in extras against it
garenty the out come would be totaly different
with 0-60 times in the low 2's to high 1's lol and 1/4 mile times from mid to high 9's
and as for the leaf spring comments.. its true they should have changed this.. but it obviously worked for them as the zo6 puts down some of the quickest lap times for a factory car on the big tracks.. and put it into a race with cars in its price range ahah id say the leaf springs work fine
dont get me wrong though.. my neighbour just got a GT3 and i got to drive it around a bit with him (didnt go hard on it since its not even my car) but that thing hawls ass and it would be a tuff decision on which i would pick.. and would take either one, but im kind of one sided with my old mans TT Z06 ahah
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The Vette needed more baby seal.
Now, let me start off by saying, I'm a GM guy. But lets face it, GM needs a tech upgrade. They're staying behind so much competition by not making changes. Imagine the power of a DOHC big block with variable valve timing. Imagine a Vette with real suspension. They did a lot of key things in designing recent Vettes (body design, mostly), but they need to get off the tradition bandwagon and destroy some competition. It's time for GM to step up to the plate and innovate the modern muscle car. Make it modern. Then we'll be able to say we have the coolest cars on the block.
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Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:I guess the air in England is different as this was not the case here at R&T.
But if it was a Ferrari or the Nissan GTR you wouldn't bitch and complain. However, if its a German car, you bitch and complain.
And people wonder why I don't post any Porsche articles/videos.
And as far as putting another $60,000 into a Vette, that is the most retarted thing I have ever heard. If I need to explain why it's retarted, please PM me.
-dan
Why is it retar
ted?
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dubduce18s wrote:Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:I guess the air in England is different as this was not the case here at R&T.
But if it was a Ferrari or the Nissan GTR you wouldn't bitch and complain. However, if its a German car, you bitch and complain.
And people wonder why I don't post any Porsche articles/videos.
And as far as putting another $60,000 into a Vette, that is the most retarted thing I have ever heard. If I need to explain why it's retarted, please PM me.
-dan
Sorry, I don't praise "souped-up VWs" And the ONLY Porche I respect is the air cooled Porche. But generally I don't go ga-ga on Eurotrash.
Besides:
GTR or Ferrari > Porche
Here is an article that tested the Z06 and the GT2.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=6594
Z06 > GT2 in the article.
Suposedly the GT2 is the fastest model that came out of Stutgart (faster then Carrera GT in some cases) and it is dead even to the Z06 in every category.
0-60
Z06-3.4, GT2-3.4
0-100
8.0, 7.9
0-120
10.7, 11.5
1/4mile
11.7@123.7, 11.7@121.2
Slalom speed
70.6, 70.4
Braking 60-0
111ft, 110ft
80-0
189ft, 194ft.
Price with options
$79,595, $135,470
Yhea, there's your big F-U to you Porche and all the owners and fans.
Any questions or...
Carry on.
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im not saying i like the porsche better, i mean i do, but i understand i could afford a vette at one point, porsce- i think not
but at the same time im sure the porsche is much more refined and such because of the price
and ps. i do love vettes too
Let me drive the vette, I guarantee I'll beat him
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In defense of the Corvette, it's leaf spring design isn't some stone age piece of crap. Read
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In defense of the Porsche, it makes 530HP at 6,500 RPM and 505 lb-ft at 2,200 RPM while weighing 3175lbs. The Corvette makes 505 hp at 6300 rpm and 470 ft·lbf at 4800 rpm while weighing 3132lbs. With the Porsches extra power and weight over the rear wheels it's just going to kill the Vette in a drag race. There's no two ways around it.
In defense of ALL supercars, a quarter mile race isn't the way to properly gauge these beasts. It's what it can do around a track, end of story. 0-60 times and Quarter Miles only count when you're stoplight racing at Van Nuys. I think it's ridiculous that they make fun of the Vette's leaf springs and then "prove" that it's an inferior car using the most retarded, simplistic form of racing possible. Let those cars loose around the Nurburgring and let's see who wins. Then we can talk winners and losers. Better yet, test drive a ZR1 Corvette against a GT2 and then we'll talk.
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:dubduce18s wrote:Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:I guess the air in England is different as this was not the case here at R&T.
But if it was a Ferrari or the Nissan GTR you wouldn't bitch and complain. However, if its a German car, you bitch and complain.
And people wonder why I don't post any Porsche articles/videos.
And as far as putting another $60,000 into a Vette, that is the most retarted thing I have ever heard. If I need to explain why it's retarted, please PM me.
-dan
Sorry, I don't praise "souped-up VWs" And the ONLY Porche I respect is the air cooled Porche. But generally I don't go ga-ga on Eurotrash.
Besides:
GTR or Ferrari > Porche
Here is an article that tested the Z06 and the GT2.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=31&article_id=6594
Z06 > GT2 in the article.
Suposedly the GT2 is the fastest model that came out of Stutgart (faster then Carrera GT in some cases) and it is dead even to the Z06 in every category.
0-60
Z06-3.4, GT2-3.4
0-100
8.0, 7.9
0-120
10.7, 11.5
1/4mile
11.7@123.7, 11.7@121.2
Slalom speed
70.6, 70.4
Braking 60-0
111ft, 110ft
80-0
189ft, 194ft.
Price with options
$79,595, $135,470
Yhea, there's your big F-U to you Porche and all the owners and fans.
Any questions or...
Carry on.
Im sorry about that, the atricle you posted was NOT the gt2, it was the turbo w/o the "Chrono Turbo Package" not that it makes a difference. But what kinda does make a difference, was that the turbo was a manaul, which in a fact that the automatic IS faster than the manual. And as far was Porsche being an over-priced VW well, that MIGHT have been true, but in 1969 Enzo Ferrari sold his company to Fiat. So, is Ferrari an overpriced Fiat? I guess so, since Porsche is an over-priced VW. As far as the Nisasn goes, well ... they are built in a factory, so you are going to get a cheaper price on the GTr than a Porsche, because all Porsche cars are hand-built (as are Ferrari, Mercedes, Bently ect.)
And as far as the stats go ... please give me a link to them. Because I know that car and driver havn't done ANY testing (road and track, car and driver and auto week) neither of those have a 1/4 mile time. Not even porsche.com has a 1/4 mile time.
So , there is a big F - U to your reading skills. And a HUGE F - U to the corvette fans that pay 70,000 for a cheap looking interior and don't mind just paying 90% of that towards the engine.
-dan
that Z06 vs. GT2 compare is useless....
0-120
vette 10.7
Porsche 11.5
1/4 Mile
vette 11.7 at 123.... So wait a minuet, it takes a full second to accelerate 3 mph?
Porsche 11.7 at 121
That proves there results worthless
At the end of the day GT2 > ZO6. I've driven both, its no contest which is my first choice
and btw calling a Porsche an over priced VW is pure ignorance. They don't really have anything in common except for being German, unless you want to count a shared SUV that has nothing to with sports cars to begn with.
arent vw , porsche and audi , still part of the same company , i know the 3 had ties to each other
they didnt call 914's and 917's mid engine vw's for no reason
either way id still take a vette over any porsche
