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2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:45 AM
http://www.gm.com/explore/fuel_econo...pdf/2008MY.pdf
government related - lists the cobalt LNF







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Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Thursday, October 25, 2007 7:56 AM
Being it's a single engine cert i'm going to guess this is for a concept car or one-off type show car. Either way it sounds like they are considering it, and that's a good step forward.



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Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:07 AM
Actually it is in the dealers part system. Late in the year in 2008 they are due at the dealerships. Another forum Cobaltss.Net has a lot of info on this TC car.


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Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Thursday, October 25, 2007 8:10 AM
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Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Thursday, October 25, 2007 9:24 AM
So GM is going to go through with this heh. HHR SS made sense, as there is a market, this... I dunno. Yes, it is "cool" that Cobalt could be possibly be quick now, although FWD will be its handicap. I just hope this time around they adapt a IRS where GM was testing out, make it better looking inside/out and lighter weight.
But GM is not in a position to market a car where only under 3% of total Cobalt sales were sold.
Personally, I would have used the Astra with a "Redline" with the European Ecotec Turbo or the LNF. It be a VW GTI-R32 killer.



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Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:13 AM
ill be in the market for another new car in march.....id really consider a turbo cobalt if it were available!!





Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:23 PM
considering the cobalt and hhr are on basicly the same chassis , and the ss/sc was dead

it was only a matter of time







Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Friday, October 26, 2007 4:28 AM
This is pure speculation, but this will probably be like a $25k colbalt right? The ss/sc was nice, but I just wouldnt pay 21-22k for whats basically an economy car. The SS 2.4 pricing was more acceptable at 16-17k. My guess is this thing will be fairly limited, and only die hard 'balt fans will shell out for it.

But if its ~ $20k...count me in!



Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Friday, October 26, 2007 5:48 AM
oldskool wrote:This is pure speculation, but this will probably be like a $25k colbalt right? The ss/sc was nice, but I just wouldnt pay 21-22k for whats basically an economy car. The SS 2.4 pricing was more acceptable at 16-17k. My guess is this thing will be fairly limited, and only die hard 'balt fans will shell out for it.

But if its ~ $20k...count me in!




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Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Friday, October 26, 2007 9:12 AM
since the srt4 is in the 24-25 range , id expect the cobalt to be in the same







Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Friday, October 26, 2007 2:54 PM
Considering how Canadians are being fleesed, I expect the car to be well over 30 up here. If that's the case, I have my doubts that I will pay that much.






Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Friday, October 26, 2007 6:25 PM
Well I guess if you it's already known.

I would say it's more than certain.


Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Friday, October 26, 2007 7:16 PM
and they said it would never happen LOL

joke is on you now



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Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Saturday, October 27, 2007 3:51 AM
They actually said it right from the start. Before the very first Cobalts were delivered. Go figure.

I am betting these are the wheels for it.






Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Saturday, October 27, 2007 6:33 AM
they would be more awesome in chrome



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Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Saturday, October 27, 2007 9:47 PM
I'm not feeling the wheels. They remind too much of the wheels that Ford offers on the Fusion with the sport package. The Cobalt wheels, just seem to be a skinny version of those.
Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:54 AM
It seems that the official word iis out. The car will be delivering in the second quarter of o8.

Much info is on Cobaltss.net.

The Brembo brake rumor is true...cool!!!

New colours, new suspension, new final drive(few),new electronics(launch and full throttle shift), new seats, and so on.

I hope the tuning software comes out. It seems a Sweedish company is seling LNF tunes, but I have heard that there are issues with it.



Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:35 AM
http://www.cobaltss.net/cobalt_ss_turbocharged/

son of a bitch, i get an 07 and now they come out with this @!#$

@!#$ i want one



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Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:42 AM
Rodimus Prime wrote:http://www.cobaltss.net/cobalt_ss_turbocharged/

son of a bitch, i get an 07 and now they come out with this @!#$

@!#$ i want one


I priced out an 07 because I was thinking it might not come. But here it is.



Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:46 AM
I don't think this will compete favorably with the MazdaSpeed3 or the SRT-4. You get alot more car with the others than the Cobalt, and at least with the Mazda you don't get body gap like whoa. If it comes in at 24K your competing with a WRX, and if it's more, it will be inching in on STi/EVO territory.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/28/officially-official-2008-chevy-cobalt-ss-bows-at-sema/#comments
Plus, it also competes with the Solstice/Sky, a sleeker, better handling car. The Cobalt just looks to much like a kids car too. The only way that thing would be mildly interesting is if it was AWD or RWD, I couldn't be bothered driving a FWD 260hp car with a GM econo-car suspension.

I'm going to get flamed for this, but lets be honest. How many of you went to the dealer today to put your names on a pre-order list? None of you I bet.
This happens with other cars in it's category, but this just doesn't really offer anything but a powerful engine, that will require 93 octane, and leave you
crappy brakes, poor interior, and lousy interior, relative to its class. GM needs to drop the big bucket of fail their small car division has been carrying for a number
of years and build an affordable, well built, small car.



Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Sunday, October 28, 2007 5:55 AM
Emor8t wrote:I don't think this will compete favorably with the MazdaSpeed3 or the SRT-4. You get alot more car with the others than the Cobalt, and at least with the Mazda you don't get body gap like whoa. If it comes in at 24K your competing with a WRX, and if it's more, it will be inching in on STi/EVO territory.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/28/officially-official-2008-chevy-cobalt-ss-bows-at-sema/#comments
Plus, it also competes with the Solstice/Sky, a sleeker, better handling car. The Cobalt just looks to much like a kids car too. The only way that thing would be mildly interesting is if it was AWD or RWD, I couldn't be bothered driving a FWD 260hp car with a GM econo-car suspension.

I'm going to get flamed for this, but lets be honest. How many of you went to the dealer today to put your names on a pre-order list? None of you I bet.
This happens with other cars in it's category, but this just doesn't really offer anything but a powerful engine, that will require 93 octane, and leave you
crappy brakes, poor interior, and lousy interior, relative to its class. GM needs to drop the big bucket of fail their small car division has been carrying for a number
of years and build an affordable, well built, small car.


I'm pretty sure the car is meant to be a halo car for the segment. For much of your compaints, I can respond by saying that the car sells for a far lesser price(well see about the turbo car). Chevy has traditionally been about getting a bang for your buck. There is little bang in tighter fitting body panels. Look at the Vette. It's performance compareed to many far more expensive cars. It's fit and finish pales in comparison aswell.

Comparing the car to a far more expensive 4wd car doen't make sense to me. I don't see why it should compete with a wagon or an overwieght whatever it is, Dodge.

The Cobalt SS/SC did well because it was a cheap car for the thrills. Plain and simple.




Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:06 AM
ill hold out for the new camaro



Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:16 AM
Vincent Morris wrote:ill hold out for the new camaro


It's still so far away. I need a car soon!



Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:16 AM
Craig Lewis wrote:
Emor8t wrote:I don't think this will compete favorably with the MazdaSpeed3 or the SRT-4. You get alot more car with the others than the Cobalt, and at least with the Mazda you don't get body gap like whoa. If it comes in at 24K your competing with a WRX, and if it's more, it will be inching in on STi/EVO territory.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/28/officially-official-2008-chevy-cobalt-ss-bows-at-sema/#comments
Plus, it also competes with the Solstice/Sky, a sleeker, better handling car. The Cobalt just looks to much like a kids car too. The only way that thing would be mildly interesting is if it was AWD or RWD, I couldn't be bothered driving a FWD 260hp car with a GM econo-car suspension.

I'm going to get flamed for this, but lets be honest. How many of you went to the dealer today to put your names on a pre-order list? None of you I bet.
This happens with other cars in it's category, but this just doesn't really offer anything but a powerful engine, that will require 93 octane, and leave you
crappy brakes, poor interior, and lousy interior, relative to its class. GM needs to drop the big bucket of fail their small car division has been carrying for a number
of years and build an affordable, well built, small car.


I'm pretty sure the car is meant to be a halo car for the segment. For much of your compaints, I can respond by saying that the car sells for a far lesser price(well see about the turbo car). Chevy has traditionally been about getting a bang for your buck. There is little bang in tighter fitting body panels. Look at the Vette. It's performance compareed to many far more expensive cars. It's fit and finish pales in comparison aswell.

Comparing the car to a far more expensive 4wd car doen't make sense to me. I don't see why it should compete with a wagon or an overwieght whatever it is, Dodge.

The Cobalt SS/SC did well because it was a cheap car for the thrills. Plain and simple.


Tighter fitting body panels /= Significant dollar change

If a Honda/Toyota can do it on their small cars so can GM. I didn't compare the car to a far more expensive AWD, I compared it to a like price of an AWD car. The theoritcal price of the car as mentioned above was $24-25k, I compared it to a AWD car with a price of.... $24k...

I suppose if you want to be totally yellow dog for GM, then by all means, but fact of the matter is, unless they do some significant retooling and redesign, this car, save for the engine, is probably crap.



Re: 2008.5 Chevy Cobalt Turbo
Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:23 AM
2008 CHEVROLET COBALT SS FAST FACTS

Engineered and developed by GM Performance Division
2.0L Ecotec turbocharged and intercooled engine with 260 horsepower (194 kW)
GM Powertrain Sweden five-speed transmission with short-throw shifter
Nürburgring-tuned FE5 Sport suspension delivers 0.9 g grip
Brembo fixed-caliper front discs and vented rear disc brakes
SS-specific appearance with unique fascias and rear spoiler – including available high wing
18-inch high-polished forged aluminum wheels and Y-rated performance tires
SS-specific interior with new sport seats, A-pillar boost gauge and more
On sale: second quarter of 2008
TURBOCHARGED CHEVROLET COBALT SS GIVES A BOOST OF FUN TO THE COMPACT SEGMENT

LAS VEGAS - Oct. 28, 2007 – Celebrating the performance community that comprises SEMA, Chevrolet used the annual convention of all things high-performance to announce the 2008 Cobalt SS coupe. True to its legendary moniker, the Cobalt SS delivers a balance of track-proven performance capability, driving refinement and premium features – along with an undeniably fun and youthful character.

Developed by GM Performance Division (GMPD) and powered by a 260-horsepower (194 kW) turbocharged and intercooled 2.0L Ecotec engine, the Cobalt SS delivers 55 horses (41 kW) more than the previous Cobalt SS Supercharged, and its driving experience was validated on racetracks throughout North America and Europe, including Germany’s legendary Nürburgring circuit.

“The Cobalt SS is the very essence of Chevrolet’s fun spirit and serious performance,” said Ed Peper, Chevrolet general manager. “The horsepower will put a permanent smile on your face and you’ll find yourself wanting to turn around and zip through your favorite stretch of twisty roads again.”

The Cobalt SS coupe arrives in dealerships in the second quarter of 2008. A Cobalt SS sedan, with all of the same high-performance features of the coupe, follows a couple of months later.

Maximum performance – on the street or track

The Cobalt SS was developed by GM Performance Division (GMPD), with a team of engineers and designers dedicated to crafting high-performance vehicles. It features powertrain and chassis enhancements that are similar to the new HHR SS, but with larger Brembo brakes, a slightly “taller” final-drive ratio and other variances that emphasize the Cobalt SS’s pure performance ethic, as well as maximize its competitiveness on the track.

Engineered to offer more than merely a turbocharged rush of power, an all-new FE5 Sport suspension was developed and includes specific stabilizer bars, spring rates and damper tuning – all designed to complement the high-output turbocharged powertrain and mitigate afflictions such as torque steer. Driver-selectable modes help maximize performance whether on the street or track. The unique “no-lift shift” feature enables manual-transmission-equipped models to achieve the best acceleration time via an algorithm in the engine controller.

Ensuring the car stops as confidently as it accelerates and corners are four-wheel disc brakes with standard ABS. The front brakes are from Brembo and have a performance-oriented fixed-caliper design, which resist fade better than floating caliper designs; the rear discs are vented for better heat dissipation. Along with these high-performance attributes, the Cobalt SS comes standard with a host of safety features, including the StabiliTrak electronic stability control system and side-impact air bags.

With its balanced tuning, the Cobalt SS delivers a quick 0-60 time of approximately 5.7 seconds – thanks to the manual transmission’s “no-lift shift” feature – and a sports car-like maximum lateral grip of 0.9 g. This combination enabled the Cobalt SS to set a new class record while circulating the famed Nürburgring racing circuit, posting a time of 8:22.85 minutes.

Unmistakable style

The Cobalt SS is distinguished on the exterior with several unique features, including a distinctive, air dam-style front fascia with integrated projector-beam fog lamps. The new fascia’s grille and the Cobalt’s upper grille sport a new, SS-specific diamond-mesh appearance.

SS-specific rockers and badging adorn the body sides, while a standard deck lid spoiler adds the requisite sporty touch to the rear of the car. The standard spoiler can be replaced with an optional high wing-style aero enhancement that gives the Cobalt SS the look of a racecar. Also at the rear is a prominent, bright-tip exhaust outlet.

Large, five-spoke 18-inch polished forged aluminum wheels and performance tires are standard and are tailored with the specific body enhancements to give the Cobalt SS a lower, performance-oriented stance – while also showing off the large Brembo front brake calipers. They’re mounted on 225/40-series summer tires. Likewise, the available exterior colors enhance the sporty nature of the vehicle. They include Victory Red, Black, Ultra Silver Metallic, Imperial Blue, Rally Yellow, Sport Red Tintcoat and White.

Like the exterior, the interior is unique to the Cobalt SS, including SS-embroidered sport seats with suede-like UltraLux inserts, a specific gauge cluster, an A-pillar-mounted turbo boost gauge and a new shifter arrangement. Three interior color combinations are available: Ebony, Light Grey and Victory Red.



2008 CHEVROLET COBALT SS SPECIFICATIONS

Overview

Model:
Cobalt SS

Body style / driveline:
5-passenger sedan and coupe, unitized frame,
front engine, front-wheel drive

Construction:
2-sided galvanized steel on exterior panels (except roof)

EPA vehicle class:
compact car

Manufacturing location:
Lordstown , Ohio

Key competitors:
Honda Civic Si, MazdaSpeed 3, Volkswagen GTI, MINI Cooper S


Engines


Ecotec 2.0L DI Turbo VVT

Application:
std on SS

Type:
2.0L DOHC I-4

Displacement (cu in / cc):
122 / 1998

Bore & stroke (in / mm):
3.39 x 3.39 / 86 x 86

Block material:
cast aluminum

Cylinder head material:
cast aluminum

Valvetrain:
DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder; dual continuous variable valve timing

Ignition system:
individual coil-on-plug

Fuel delivery:
direct-injection with a variable high-pressure rail and electronic throttle control

Compression ratio:
9.2:1

Horsepower (hp / kW @ rpm):
260 / 194 @ 5300*

Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
260 / 353 @ 2000*

Recommended fuel:
premium recommended but not required

Maximum engine speed (rpm):
6300 rpm

Emissions controls:
close-coupled catalytic converters, Quick-Sync 58x ignition system; returnless fuel rail; wide-range O 2 sensor

Estimated fuel economy:
TBD


Transmission


GM Powertrain Sweden F35 5-speed manual

Gear ratios: (:1):


First:
3.38

Second:
1.76

Third:
1.18

Fourth:
0.89

Fifth:
0.70

Reverse:
3.17

Final drive ratio:
3.82:1


Chassis/Suspension

Front:
MacPherson independent strut-type with direct acting, 24mm solid stabilizer bar

Rear:
semi-independent torsion beam with montoube gas shocks; 24mm solid stabilizer bar

Steering type:
electric, power-assisted variable-speed rack-and-pinion

Steering ratio:
14.8:1 (variable)

Steering wheel turns, lock-to-lock:
TBD

Turning circle, curb-to-curb (ft / m):
39.4 / 12


Brakes

Type:
power 4-wheel disc with standard anti-lock; 38mm Brembo four-piston fixed calipers in front and 40mm single-piston rear calipers

Rotor diameter x thickness (in / mm):
front: 12.4 x 1.02 / 315 x 26 (vented)

Disc diameter x width (in / mm):
rear: 11.5 x 0.79 / 292 x 20 (vented)


Wheels/Tires

Wheel size and type:
18 x 7.5-inch split-spoke polished forged aluminum

Tires:
P225/40ZR18 high-performance


Dimensions

Exterior


Wheelbase (in / mm):
103.5 / 2628

Overall length (in / mm):
180.5 / 4585

Overall width (in / mm):
67.9 / 1725

Overall height (in / mm):
55.7 / 1415.4

Track (in / mm):
front: 58.6 / 1490
rear: 58.1 / 1476

Minimum ground clearance
(in / mm):
TBD

Curb weight (lb / kg):
2975 / 1349

Weight distribution (% front / rear):
60 / 40




Interior
Coupe

Front
Rear

Seating capacity:
2
3

Headroom (in / mm):
38.7 / 984
35.7 / 905.7

Legroom (in / mm):
42 / 1066.5
32.2 / 817.5

Shoulder room (in / mm):
53 / 1346.5
49 / 1245.8

Hip room (in / mm):
49.5 / 1257.1
46.1 / 1171.8


Capacities

EPA passenger volume (cu ft / L):
87 / 243.5

EPA interior volume (cu ft / L):
97 / 2747

Cargo volume (cu ft /L):
13.9 / 394

Trailer towing maximum (lb / kg):
not recommended

Fuel tank (gal / L):
13.2 / 49

Engine oil (qt / L):
5 / 4.7

Cooling system (qt / L):
TBD


SAE certified.






Thought i would add that if no one else has posted.




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