wow, just wow. i had to wait until i got my tranny fluid flushed and filter changed before i was willing enough to try my ATI. just got that done and installed the unit. i must say im VERY impressed, best mod ive ever done to any of my cars. its a different car. it pulls so much harder now, and the best part? the car actually shifts now, i can finally utilize everything i did over the winter. and wow, so much faster now that it doesnt bounce the rev limiter before it shifts. im still dumbfounded that it gets a 2nd gear scratch now WITH MY HEAVY ASS 17'S, i know its bad and all... but damn, its nice to know all my power is finally there.
i have it set at 100% right now, it goes into gear pretty hard, but just bummin around it really doesnt effect driveability, just firmer shifts is all and they arent really that noticeable if your not gettin into it.
very impressed, i give this mod a 10/10. anybody with any auto needs one. period.
Like we were talkin' about on the phone,ATI from what I hear works better than the ShiftPlus but I notice a big difference between 1st stage and 2nd on the B&M.But glad the car is runnin' good!!
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shiit, forgot the best part. NO trac off light! its weird, its what i DIDNT want from the outcome of the unit, and for some reason its not on. i know the traction control still works to because if you leave it in drive and launch it the 'low trac' light still comes on.
awesome stuff.
I have one for sale if anyone wants it...
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z yaaaa wrote:shiit, forgot the best part. NO trac off light! its weird, its what i DIDNT want from the outcome of the unit, and for some reason its not on. i know the traction control still works to because if you leave it in drive and launch it the 'low trac' light still comes on.
awesome stuff.
It doesn't because I disabled your transmission abuse mode
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its amazing what increasing the line pressure on the tranny can do.... imagine if you actually had the tranny tuned now lol
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I agree best mod on my car, i have no proof (never ran w/o it) but id say it took at least .2 off in my 1/4 time
I would be concerned. You still have a issue (probably in the tuning of the tranny) since it will not shift under WOT without the ATI. I know people who have tested the ATI at the track and no gains. I would much rather go with a well tuned tranny than ATI.
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its ok though man, i dont beat on the car enough to worry about it. ill be having ron re-tune it this winter, hopefully.
i was really getting annoyed with how hard it went into gear after coming out of park, so i turned it down to about 75% and its not so bad. still shifts good though.
Joey Baggs (Eazy716) wrote:Skilz10179 wrote:I have one for sale if anyone wants it...
$ ?
offer?
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You're making me want one of these. I'm just starting to get used to how my car feels without the sloppy worn-out OEM engine mounts -- I had thought it was normal for there to be about a half-second moment of hesitation when you put your foot down. Turns out quite a bit of that was that my engine was moving, but the car wasn't.
Now that my engine is mounted securely, I think something like the ATI would be a good next step for me.
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Have fun replacing the transmission one day, Brad.
Seriously... with HPT with the abuse mode shut off you can actually improve the transmission without even THINKING of touching line pressure. I've done 3 auto's so far and all 3 ppl are ecstatic with how the car drives afterwards.
Won't it be nice to cruise thru town in 4th gear at 1500 rpm instead of 2500... then stomp it and watch the car instantly drop down 2 gears and go right to 4000 rpm?
I'd rather do that than gank the line pressure, personally.
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easier said than done, chris. i dont have HPT, nor the technical expertise and skills to run it. im sure ron did everything he thought he could get away with and still be reliable when he did my tune.
the car sees less then 2000 miles a year. if the tranny blows, then fine. i have since turned down the ATI to about 75% though.
I'm got my hands on one of these things too, so I guess the question is now "will it be wasted on a 2.2 OHV car", and "will the abuse mode I've heard so much about get in the way". It appears to be one of the later units with only the line pressure adjustment on the outside. I'll likely be trying this thing out tonight.
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Geeky wrote:I'm got my hands on one of these things too, so I guess the question is now "will it be wasted on a 2.2 OHV car", and "will the abuse mode I've heard so much about get in the way". It appears to be one of the later units with only the line pressure adjustment on the outside. I'll likely be trying this thing out tonight.
Won't be wasted... but I hope you have a 4 speed, VERY few 2.2's got the 4T40E.
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Shifted wrote:Geeky wrote:I'm got my hands on one of these things too, so I guess the question is now "will it be wasted on a 2.2 OHV car", and "will the abuse mode I've heard so much about get in the way". It appears to be one of the later units with only the line pressure adjustment on the outside. I'll likely be trying this thing out tonight.
Won't be wasted... but I hope you have a 4 speed, VERY few 2.2's got the 4T40E.
That wasn't a problem for me -- I knew I had the 4-speed. Traction control is handy in the winter.
I've tried out the ATI, and quite honestly I don't like it. I can tell what it's doing, but I never really equated "firmer shifting" with "feels like somethings broken". I started at 50% and tooled around for a little bit. Every shift felt like a giant boot up the car's backside, with is fun and everything, but I wouldn't mind being able to cruise around without bracing against whiplash. I was hoping I could ease up the line pressure and get the quicker low-slip shift, but without the gigantic lurch. No dice. I parked the car about 8 different times, and fine-tuned the adjustment, but it felt exactly the same between 50% and 5%, and then suddenly went back to stock. This didn't exactly strike me as ideal "fine-tuning".
Suffice to say, unless I'm missing something obvious, it looks like I'll have an ATI for sale at a great price shortly.
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hmmm, sorry to hear about the misfortune man. most of the time ive heard reviews, you either love it or you hate it. maybe the b&m unit would better suit your needs?
im betting the reason i love mine so much because of what ron did with HPT, all i know is it made a hell of a difference on my car. but mine was also having shifting issues, so i went from rev limiter before shifts and not putting power down, to hard slams into gear and chirping tires. basically, i never got to feel the power of the car until i installed mine.
At this point, I'm just trying to figure out if my ATI is behaving normally, or if this is unusual. I honestly wonder if mine is lacking fine control -- it seems like it either slaps into each gear with a huge lurch, or does nothing at all. Zyaaa, it sounds like you're favoring the upper settings, but have you noticed much of a difference as you adjusted your though the pressure range?
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get the shift plus , when i had the ati , mine never shifted the same twice
also if you dont have mounts it might feel worse , since the motor and trans will move more
ive know several people that had good luck with the ati , i just had better luck with the shift plus
Geeky wrote:That wasn't a problem for me -- I knew I had the 4-speed. Traction control is handy in the winter. I've tried out the ATI, and quite honestly I don't like it. I can tell what it's doing, but I never really equated "firmer shifting" with "feels like somethings broken". I started at 50% and tooled around for a little bit. Every shift felt like a giant boot up the car's backside, with is fun and everything, but I wouldn't mind being able to cruise around without bracing against whiplash. I was hoping I could ease up the line pressure and get the quicker low-slip shift, but without the gigantic lurch. No dice. I parked the car about 8 different times, and fine-tuned the adjustment, but it felt exactly the same between 50% and 5%, and then suddenly went back to stock. This didn't exactly strike me as ideal "fine-tuning".
Suffice to say, unless I'm missing something obvious, it looks like I'll have an ATI for sale at a great price shortly.
What kind of shape are your motor mounts in...and trans mount.
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-MD- LD9 wrote:What kind of shape are your motor mounts in...and trans mount.
Just installed these last week.
The trans mount could be worn, but I don't think my complaints are caused by mount slop. I've decided to try the ATI with the minimum setting for a little while. At this setting, you can't even tell it's installed during daily driving, but I've convinced myself that it still makes the trans kick down faster. Maybe. Probably not really. If I touch the adjustment *at all*, it goes straight to causing a obvious lurch as it grabs each gear - *especially* at low speeds -- exactly where it isn't needed.
From further reading, I'm beginning to think this is just how it works.
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Im not too impressed with it, I only realy feel the car shift when im driving normally, when im on it I cant realy notice it. Ive got the line pressure set to 100%, as well as the tc lockup; Ive tried a few different settings but not realy any difference. It always feels like it shifts the same though, never changes which is good I guess. I thought about trying the shiftplus, since I drove my friends eco with one and it would kinda throw you in the seat on the 2nd setting.
I hopefully will be getting a hptune sometime soon, maybe Ill feel the ati more with some settings adjusted. I had my pcm in my grand am gt(4t45e) tuned, and the tranny line pressure was increased,3-1 and 4-2 skip shifts, and shift points were raised to about 6k...the shifting was the first thing I noticed about the tune,and was easily the best mod to that car. Thats why I cant wait to get a hptune and see how my cav likes it
Is it supposed to be difficult to make an untweaked and non-reprogrammed 4T40e skip-shift? If I'm cruising around 35mph / 1500 rpm and tromp it, it skips to 4000 rpm about 9 times in 10.
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