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Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clutch
Monday, September 12, 2005 6:44 PM
Today a mechnic told me that upshifting from 2nd to 3rd and so on w/out pressing on the clutch is okay and he even so me, and I tried it a couple of times today and found it a bit difficult to get used to while the mechnic did it with ease and told me that he does it with every manual he ever owned w/ out changing the clutch, and said it was actually helpful to prevent future clutch problems..Is this true??? He better be right cause I just had a brand new clutch and slave cylinder put in not too long ago....THanx!!!!!!

Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Monday, September 12, 2005 6:51 PM
I think your mechanic told me that your blinker fluid's low too.

While yes it will "prevent future clutch problems", it will chew threw the gears in your tranny. You're mechanic's just hoping to get some $$$ outta you.









Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Monday, September 12, 2005 6:55 PM
If I just did it today I should be fine right??? Never again will I do it!!! It just didn't feel right!!!
Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Monday, September 12, 2005 7:00 PM
A couple of times here and there, no problem. Also, you did say that you had a clutch installed, it probably is still within its break in period.









Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Monday, September 12, 2005 7:15 PM
No I got it installed a little over 6 mths ago.......but guess what happen this weekend..........I was going to a party and all of a sudden my exhaust pipe from the cat-back, where the orginal dumbazz mechanic did a half azz welding job puting on a cheap custom pipe.....then all of a sudden as I was going 75mph on the freeway the pipe suddenly fell off and hanging, from the cat-back........so my car was shaking and people were beeping at me and I thought that my muffler fell off, and I heard nothing but bells(pipe draging on ground) while having no choice but to get off in the middle of the hood at 1:00am......anyways took it back to midas and solved the problem. Got a new muffler and piping, it was about that time.......Magnaflow Exhaust and custom piping, this time the guy knew how to weld properly according to him.we'll see........
Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Monday, September 12, 2005 7:19 PM
Time for a new "mechanic"









Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Monday, September 12, 2005 8:44 PM
Anybody else??? I found some interesting arguement on the net pro and con's of not using ur clutch for 2nd etc... or to pop it to neutral.....what do ya'll think??? I know that I'm not going to do it no more cause that just defeats the whole purpose of a manual transmission but that's just my opinion........the damn mechanic told me that if u go to a race track u won't see anybody using their clutch to enage into 2nd and so on, cause it just wastes time, is that true??? Same with truck drivers......
Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Monday, September 12, 2005 9:27 PM
lmao, it wont chew a damn thing as long as you dont crunch a gear, while it is somewhat hard on the syncros on the transmission, i have never seen fatal results from it. Alot of the time i use the clutch to start off and then just shift without it on the fly even downshift. it takes a 'nack to get but its handy...


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Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:38 AM
Yeah I read somewhere on here that it's called "flaoting" the gears or something. you have to shift at the exact right rpm's...BUT I CAN'T CUZ I DON'T HAVE TACH!!!!!!!!! Sorry just ranting a little
Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 7:32 AM
well let me explain it a little bit.Basically what your doing is called Rev Matching.The trick is to pop the tranny into neutral and "rev match" it into the next gear.Letting the rpm's drop slightly allows the synchro's to match and the gears to align and pop right into the next gear.On down shifts you would "blip" the throttle quickly allowing th engine to rev quickly and the synchro's to match and pop into the lower gear.





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Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 10:58 AM
My dad tried it on my Sunfire, and with a mini grind, so i dont think it can be done with mine. I can pop the car out of gear without the clutch, so long as im not on the gas.



Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:31 PM
it can be done i have done it alot with mine.But it in noooo way makes shifting faster.It takes a good 3-4 seconds to do it without crashing the syncro's together,which is bad.



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Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:22 PM
Yup
Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 5:31 PM
That's practically how my dad always drives...he was a truck driver for years back in the day and never really got over the habit or "floating the gears". very very rarely will I ever hear a grind...though I don't suggest trying to start, it takes a good ear and lots of practice to master


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Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:40 PM
not on a syncro'd transmission it doesnt (as long as the trans is in good shape) you just have to know how to do it. its different on rigs where there are no syncros so if you dont have it exactly perfectly right no f**kin way is she going into gear


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Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Wednesday, September 14, 2005 4:25 AM

Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Wednesday, September 14, 2005 6:19 PM
you have a clutch for a reason, don't play around with that if you don't know how, shift the way gm intended



Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:06 PM
Yea i would never try that.. by the way can any one else go from reverse to 4th just by pulling the stick towards you? not going up then over then down? i had it happen to me when i reversing and had alittle presure on the stick and "pop" into fourth she went ......worst feeling ever



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Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:14 AM
ecotecflow wrote:If I just did it today I should be fine right??? Never again will I do it!!! It just didn't feel right!!!


dude are serious? your all going extreme and sh!t. besides if you hear a arr arr grrr and its hard to put it in 3rd when you go from 2nd to 3rd w/o holding in the clutch thats probally a indication of "hey i think im messing up my tranny"




Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:14 AM
mods delete the above post, i forgot to spell check it

dude are you serious? your all going extreme and sh!t. besides if you hear a arr arr grrr and its hard to put it in 3rd when you go from 2nd to 3rd w/o holding in the clutch thats probally a indication of "hey i think im messing up my tranny"





Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Thursday, September 15, 2005 4:18 AM
^^^we dont delete individual posts on this forum




Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Thursday, September 15, 2005 7:40 AM
Machzel08 wrote:^^^we dont delete individual posts on this forum
You aren't a mod, don't say "we."



Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Thursday, September 15, 2005 10:48 AM
eCOfIRE.cOm (The Amish One) wrote:well let me explain it a little bit.Basically what your doing is called Rev Matching.The trick is to pop the tranny into neutral and "rev match" it into the next gear.Letting the rpm's drop slightly allows the synchro's to match and the gears to align and pop right into the next gear.On down shifts you would "blip" the throttle quickly allowing th engine to rev quickly and the synchro's to match and pop into the lower gear.


This post is right on. If you do it right you will not hurt your tranny. I have done my 2001 this way since it was new. Not everyday all day, but I have done it alot. I also did my 97 Z24 as well. The getrag is much easier to do. Truly if you do it right, you are doing the same thing the clutch does, without using the clutch. The clutch allows the all the gears inside to slow down and catch up with each other (short idea of what happens).
Truly even if you do not do it right it does not go in. I can do it and the shift falls into gear, no force at all. It actually almost pulls it's self in gear. You can't race like this, not meant for fast driving. I can actually drive my car from a stop with no clutch, upshift and downshift.
Re: Upshifting from 2nd3rd etc.w/out pressing clut
Thursday, September 15, 2005 12:39 PM
JuggaloZeke wrote:
Machzel08 wrote:^^^we dont delete individual posts on this forum
You aren't a mod, don't say "we."

i meant we as a forum.....sorry



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