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turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:43 AM
sup guys...

My friend has a turbo off of an sr20det engine...

the specs are as follows:

"Turbo specs:
Compressor: T-25, 60 trim 56mm BCI-1 compressor.
Turbine: T-25, 62 trim 53.8mm 0.64 A/R turbine housing.
Center Section: Journal bearings
Performance:

The stock turbo will be safe to 13-15 psi. After that, the turbo is past its efficiency range, and power increases will fall off and are not worth the risk of turbo damage. The engine should produce 230-250 RWHP at safe boost (used with the sr20det engine."

Here's the deal... I can get it for dirt cheap... My goal is a cheap and reliable turbo kit which produces at least 200 whp.

1. Is this a good turbo for this goal ?
2. How about upgradability ? How easy would it be to change just the turbo afterwards after I'm bored with 200 whp ? Will I have to change the manifold and flange or are there bigger turbos that will fit on there ?

So what would you guys do if you were me ?



15.574 @ 89 mph stock

Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:50 AM
the t25 is going to a little on the small side for your motor. its gonna get really hot. as far as the flange i dont think there is many biggger turbos that have the same flange.



Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:51 AM
to small...



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Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Saturday, January 07, 2006 10:11 AM
QBE (73H 800573D 0N3) wrote:to small...


I agree.....

but ........

I believe Hahn uses t25 small and big 16g turbos........ TDO5 ????

Those aren't too small ...............

Lee


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Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Saturday, January 07, 2006 12:06 PM
its pretty small, but, since you guys are reving to the moon, i think you will stay within its map descently, it would do ok if you ould get it really cheap.

also, i do believe the t25 off the redtop has a larger exhaust housing. but maybe thats the t28.

s
Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:22 PM
it's a T25 my buddy put one on his lancer rs (cnfx turbo lancer) it amde good power but I think it is way to small for our cara



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Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Sunday, January 08, 2006 9:52 AM
I wonder about that, since it's making 250 whp on a sr20det... they are 2.0 liters and the eco is 2.2... is there such a big difference between the two ? What specifically in the sr20det makes it good for them and bad for the eco ?



15.574 @ 89 mph stock
Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:08 AM
Personally "I" think it is too small. I would not use it. you can but youre goign to have to run a lot fo boost to make the same numbers that someone else may be making on a t3 super 60 or t3/t4 and its going to run REAL hot.



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Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Sunday, January 08, 2006 2:40 PM
It's not because it "can" produce a certain amount of Hp on 1 engine that it will no the other. You need to learn more about turbos. It's more than size and psi.

250whp on a T25 is way past it's efficiency and it won't be reliable. Get a T3 super 60 like the rest and enjoy your choice cxause that t25 will not be good.



Gilles
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Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Sunday, January 08, 2006 3:03 PM
I know that engines affect how turbos will perform... I was just asking what was the main differences between the sr20det and the eco that made that difference in power-making.

And BTW I did say in my original post that I would be happy with 200 whp for a while.



15.574 @ 89 mph stock
Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Monday, January 09, 2006 1:24 AM
it's an sr20 nuff' said...

sorry but an sr20 is an amazing engine... that head must flow a bitch!



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Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Monday, January 09, 2006 4:55 AM
yeah I guess lol. oh well. I guess I'll wait and get a real turbo. Sucks cuz i could get it for about 200 $ CAD which is about 170 $ for you US people.





15.574 @ 89 mph stock
Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Monday, January 09, 2006 7:56 AM
brandon is running a small turbo from the high boost saab

and its a wicked ride , cause boost hits at a very low rpm


if your only gonna street drive the car , and maybe race it once or twice , then smaller turbo will work out more in your favor , cause they come on hard at low rpm , where you street drive the most







Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Monday, January 09, 2006 8:01 AM
how does the t25 compare to the saab one ?



15.574 @ 89 mph stock
Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Monday, January 09, 2006 9:14 AM
i think the low boost uses a t25 or a t28

and the high boost is a mitsu


the only problem i see is building a kit for a turbo of another car is if your unhappy with it , or decied to use a larger turbo , then you gotta redo alot of work







Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Monday, January 09, 2006 9:24 AM
Lee wrote:
QBE (73H 800573D 0N3) wrote:to small...


I agree.....

but ........

I believe Hahn uses t25 small and big 16g turbos........ TDO5 ????

Those aren't too small ...............

Lee



Hahn uses ONLY Mitsu turbos. The Super 16G is a TD05-16G-10CM2. The standard 16G turbo that they use for Eclipse upgrades is a TDO5H-16G-7CM2. They also use a 15G on their 2200 turbo kit which is a TDO4HL-15G-7CM2. They also have a smaller 13G unit that they use for 9B turbo replacements and bigger units like the Super 20G, a nice hybrid unit (TDO6H-20G-TDO5H-10CM2) and Super 25G.
I have the Super 16G and can vouch for how low in the RPMs this thing kicks. In 4th gear from a 1500RPM roll I can have full boost (10PSI at time of testing) by 3000-3100RPM and 15PSI by 3300RPM.



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Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Monday, January 09, 2006 2:18 PM
DanteMustDie wrote:sup guys...

My friend has a turbo off of an sr20det engine...

the specs are as follows:

"Turbo specs:
Compressor: T-25, 60 trim 56mm BCI-1 compressor.
Turbine: T-25, 62 trim 53.8mm 0.64 A/R turbine housing.
Center Section: Journal bearings
Performance:

The stock turbo will be safe to 13-15 psi. After that, the turbo is past its efficiency range, and power increases will fall off and are not worth the risk of turbo damage. The engine should produce 230-250 RWHP at safe boost (used with the sr20det engine."

Here's the deal... I can get it for dirt cheap... My goal is a cheap and reliable turbo kit which produces at least 200 whp.

1. Is this a good turbo for this goal ?
2. How about upgradability ? How easy would it be to change just the turbo afterwards after I'm bored with 200 whp ? Will I have to change the manifold and flange or are there bigger turbos that will fit on there ?

So what would you guys do if you were me ?


1. That T25 should be just fine for a 200whp 2.2 not reving passed 6500rpm.

2. An upgrade can be as simple as a direct turbo replacement with something like a Garrett GT28R or a GT28RS which can support over 300whp.


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Member of J-Body Of Michigan.

Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Monday, January 09, 2006 2:43 PM
^^^^ yikes talk about an upgrade the gt28r is 800 $ US !!!

If I upgrade to something else can I just change the turbo and flange or do I have to change the manifold too ?



15.574 @ 89 mph stock
Re: turbo off a red top sr20det ?
Monday, January 09, 2006 2:54 PM
If you want to upgrade to a turbo that does not use a T25 turbine you can just have the flange on the manifold cut off and have which over flange you need weld onto it.


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