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I lost my turbo (Pics)
Monday, November 14, 2005 6:21 PM
We installed the turbo this weekend, but I've seemed to have misplaced my turbo...

Can anybody find it (sorry for the blurry images)?


Its in there somewhere...


There's the a pipe... where's the turbo?


Its got an intercooler...


Hot pipe is there (and SpeedRacerZ with a tool)...


A cold pipe and blow off valve seem to be there...


Another charge pipe I see...


Don't see any charge pipes in the engine bay though...


Brian (SpeedRacerZ) and Tom (WrenchMonkey) look like @!#$ after 22 hours straight work


Downpipe is absolutely beautiful, Brian's best work...



And now for the story:

We went and installed my turbo this past weekend. Worked on it straight except for a 6 hour stretch on Saturday morning for some sleep. Got all the charge pipes mocked up, and run, oil pan drilled and tapped, downpipe made, turbo clocked and bolted in, battery relocated (didn't have to, but wanted to), new hoses run for heater core, exhaust clamped on and working, everything done by 7pm on Sunday. Started it up and it idled great. Turbo spun up just fine, no noise, no leaks, nothing.

Get it out on the road and spool the turbo up, thing whines like a banshee, hits 5psi and I let off, BOV lets go, hell yeah.

But wait, the thing is still whining and its not spooled at all...

Get out on the street and give er all she's got again, hit maybe 2 psi... so easy enough, maybe a blown charge pipe...

Get to the gas station and check it out, no leaky or loose pipes. Thing is screaming like a circular saw now, no matter how little I give it. Get it back to Brians and he sees that the bolts that hold the O2 housing to the turbo were loose and one was completely missing. Tightened it all up again, put a new bolt in it, and went out again. Oil was flowing through the feed line freely and wasn't getting backed up in the drain.

This time she's still screaming, not making any boost, and I can hear the impeller contacting the housing. Get to a parking lot after pissing off Brian's nieghbors to the point of getting a lecture, and Brian gets up on the hood as its idling and notices that the impeller is spinning, starts to wobble, then contacts the housing and stops.

Long story short, my turbo didn't make it down the block. She's blown and I need to get (another) new one. I'm hoping that my current turbo is still under warranty (or if its under warranty at all).

But there you have it. My car is essentially turbo'd, with pipes run UNDER the car, 2.5" mandrel bent down pipe and charge pipes. The lower pipe isn't as low as it looks, just the car was up on stands and the angle makes it look like it hangs down, but its only about 1/2" under the motor mount.

Btw... this is what happens when you give Wrench Monkey a drill and ask him to remove the battery tray:



He decided to bypass drilling the welds out and went right for the channel locks and rolled the tray off with the pliers.





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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Monday, November 14, 2005 6:26 PM
wow that sucks ass man...




Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Monday, November 14, 2005 6:33 PM
How on earth did you blow your turbo in what sounds like 2 short drives? And /\ /\ is right that sucks ass! Good luck with it.




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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Monday, November 14, 2005 6:46 PM
Geez Ron, you havn't been having the best of luck...Hopefully it will be warrentied and you can finally get this long awaited project on the road!



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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Monday, November 14, 2005 7:23 PM
i knwo how he did.....when the went to clock the turbo(oil supply) they loosened it to much and the counter balance shifted. they re tightened it and it cracked. and yeap.

ask me how i know....we had the same thing happen this weekend other side of the country. nothing like trying to find a new counter balance @ 10:30 at night.


i could be wrong but thats what im guessing



Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Monday, November 14, 2005 7:36 PM
I had both sides of my turbo completely off changing housings and we never changed the counter blanace or anything and I have been running this turbo since june.. so i dont see why clocking the turbo would ruin the counter balance



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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Monday, November 14, 2005 7:38 PM
glad to hear its finally together, install is very nice, sucks you fried the turbo though



Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Monday, November 14, 2005 8:29 PM
im not saying it woudl happen all the time......but it happened to us this weekend



Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Monday, November 14, 2005 9:08 PM
nice clean install but @!#$ty luck. Hope everythign works out for you. Welcome to boost!

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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Monday, November 14, 2005 9:12 PM
^^^ i was there... it did happen. We dont know why though. Somehow it got mis-aligned and when it was re-tightened it was not seated right and cracked.



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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Monday, November 14, 2005 9:13 PM
thats quite possibly the smartest place to put a BOV, that I've ever seen.

god damn Ron that looks wicked!

Sorry to hear about the turbo




Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Monday, November 14, 2005 9:43 PM
ya I rebuilt my turbo and replaced just the hot side oil seal and put it back together ran it for a week before I put my car away... it was fine...... spooled to 11 pounds no problem..... I also wonder about this counter balance stuff.............. I didn't have any issue putting the turbo back together or anything just hammered it apart... got er done and put her back on.... all in an afternoon of fun.

Lee


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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Monday, November 14, 2005 11:02 PM
that's crazy man.




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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:02 AM


looks like some nice stuff.

good luck and keep us updated




Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:03 AM
The charge pipes look amazing, great job.
Dont feel bad though bro, I bought 2 turboes off ebay, and within 10 miles each of them did the same thing that your turbo did, lost a @!#$ ton of money, but then said screw it and went and bought a brand new turbo directly from Garrett.

Good luck!



Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:58 AM
Jay wrote:The charge pipes look amazing, great job.
Dont feel bad though bro, I bought 2 turboes off ebay, and within 10 miles each of them did the same thing that your turbo did, lost a @!#$ ton of money, but then said screw it and went and bought a brand new turbo directly from Garrett.

Good luck!


Those XS Power or whatever turbos are crap, especially their seals. It's best to just spend the money and buy a full Garrett turbo from one of its distributers.




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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:22 AM
Thanks...

I bought the turbo from Andre's Turbo's on ebay, he has a 99.2% feedback over quite a few sales. The turbo looked great, but something inside was screwed up apparently. The turbo guy said to send it back to him and he'd get it fixed up asap and sent back, so I'm pretty happy with the customer service if he gets me a working turbo.





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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:31 AM
Shifted wrote:Thanks...

I bought the turbo from Andre's Turbo's on ebay, he has a 99.2% feedback over quite a few sales. The turbo looked great, but something inside was screwed up apparently. The turbo guy said to send it back to him and he'd get it fixed up asap and sent back, so I'm pretty happy with the customer service if he gets me a working turbo.


I hope it works out for you man.




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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:55 AM
sorry to hear that the turbo went out on ya. i feel bad im just glad to know that the turbo was getting oil. wish i could have stayed longer but the woman was pissed i was gone for so long. oh well it will get done. oh yeah i had fun taking the battery tray out. and the bov sounds sooooo sexy. mmmm turbo. im still worn out from that install. hope to talk to you soon ron.



Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 8:57 AM
oh yeah i got sunburnt from the tack welds if thats what you wanna call them.



Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:55 AM
Snowman wrote:i knwo how he did.....when the went to clock the turbo(oil supply) they loosened it to much and the counter balance shifted. they re tightened it and it cracked. and yeap.

ask me how i know....we had the same thing happen this weekend other side of the country. nothing like trying to find a new counter balance @ 10:30 at night.


i could be wrong but thats what im guessing


Not sure what you mean by this? "when the(y) went to clock the turbo (oil supply) they loosened it to much and the counter balance shifted"

I had the compressor housing off completely at one point. I also made sure to put it back on straight, and tightend up....... same thing I've done on my turbo's a couple dozen times. The balance is in the shaft, not the housings. Now if I had cocked the housing when I put it on, or didnt get it on tight, I can see that happening........ but I've already tripple checked that, and its on straight.

I'll get the turbo off, and sent back. I've got one small coolant leak to fix. When it comes back, I'll get it back in, and everything buttoned back up. It sure was a crappy way to end a long weekend........

....... and screw my neighbors....... they all rent anyway.......




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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:57 AM
oh yea, we'll have to fix that 10:1 A/F ratio you have at 5psi........ maybe lean it out a tad




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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:12 AM
Congrats, kinda.......keep us updated

That AF sounds about like mine. Guess I'll have to bring mine down sometime Brian .....it's going back to stock now as I need a car to get to work, and I think the bird needs bearings and a cam.

Jason



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Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:14 AM


Not sure what you mean by this? "when the(y) went to clock the turbo (oil supply) they loosened it to much and the counter balance shifted"

I had the compressor housing off completely at one point. I also made sure to put it back on straight, and tightend up....... same thing I've done on my turbo's a couple dozen times. The balance is in the shaft, not the housings. Now if I had cocked the housing when I put it on, or didnt get it on tight, I can see that happening........ but I've already tripple checked that, and its on straight.

I'll get the turbo off, and sent back. I've got one small coolant leak to fix. When it comes back, I'll get it back in, and everything buttoned back up. It sure was a crappy way to end a long weekend........

....... and screw my neighbors....... they all rent anyway.......

We will get er done.

They bitched AGAIN. lmao



Re: I lost my turbo (Pics)
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:15 AM
dont you mean 8:1 a/f ratio lol



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