sooo i dont exactly understand what you're saying... the turbo hits the firewall... and you can clock it... so then turn it the other way so the compressor is on the driver side and the downpipe is on the pass side, clock it so the oil lines line up and should fit fine... i dont see how any turbo wouldnt fit back there with one of his manifolds. ive used 2 of his and both fit perfect with 2 inches or so of clearance and every pic iv ever seen of his mani's look the same. take pics of what you're talking about because its not making sense that it wont fit unless the flange is at one hell of an odd angle or you have the turbo the wrong way. you want the compressor/intake to be on the driver side...is that how it is?



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I've got an Exploited Manifold, fits perfectly in my car.

Granted it's a 2.4L. Like SunfighterGT, I too haven't heard of an Eco fitting yet. With a little help from a .org member, you Eco guys could have a decent source for manifolds...



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Dragrace, you can love me or whatever, but you are not showing me any cause you are laughing at me, which is not cool by any means.
I mean I am a fanatic when it comes to my car.

Ok let me try to clear this out, and I don't know if you guys know the positioning of Eco motor unless you have one.
My 2.4L manifold, the t3 flange was biased to the driver side and it was cool.
I put the Turbo on with the compressor toward the driver side of the car and even tho I don't have room to fit an air filter it FITS.
Now also know one more thing I have external wastegate and the Tube goes toward the passanger side.

One the Eco it is a different story, The manifold that I have right now is built the same way, but I cannot use it.
Clocking will NOT get me anywhere, I mean if you think about it there are only 2 ways the Turbo can go, either compressor toward the driver side and down.
Or compressor toward the passanger side and Turbo is high up, since the damn Turbine housing was designed like a snail shell.

Well here is the Eco story. Keep in mind how the manifold is.
If I put the Turbo like a had it before where the compressor housing is on the driver side, the housing itself hits and needs an inch to clear this part on the block where the heater lines and the water temperature sensor is.
It doesn't matter which way you clock it, when the compressor housing is too big.
Now if I turn it the other way like Haas has it. where the compressor is toward the passanger side and the downpipe on the driver side.
It is too big and once again the compressor housing hits the firewall.

Now who cares about the @!#$ firewall, I;ll cut that @!#$ or hammer it and re-paint it, but this is where the wastegate @!#$ up and it doesn't clear.
Since the Outlet for the wastegate is toward the passanger side it comes like an inch from the compressor housing.
Now the second way it would work if my damn Turbo was internal wastegate, but it is not.

Now the only option is to re-weld the T3 flange towards the middle,about inch or inch and half, acctually if it was dead ass in the middle it would be fine, and not straight out, but up about 15-20 degrees, I guess it could work if it was straight out, but I was looking at it and the compressor housing look like it might hit the bottom of the block.

If the damn Turbo wasn't so @!#$ big, it would ok.
Well that is the problem now can anyone tell me how to fix it, and since I cannot fit my Turbo on my car like it is my 1st time, what can you guys suggest??
Nothing there to do, guys trust me now if you read and understand this what I wrote, you WILL see that there is really no way of doing this.

'''''''''''''''''''Is anyone running Brian's manifold and the external wastegate, what size compressor are you running??''''''''''''''''''''



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use a smaller turbo?

SunCavi. I am sorry I am not one to start bickering over stuff like this. I wish you the best and give you props on all your work. Brian , from Exploited on the other hand. You need to find another profession. How do you sleep at night?


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Use a smaller Turbo ah, I guess that would fix it. It acctually would, but I can't do sorry.

Drag I talked to you so it 's cool.
NE1 else???




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how much more room do you need? more room than a hammer can make?

Actually, what I am going to do is....
Well I am going to turn the compressor toward the passanger side. I did this already.
I already banged out the firewall, and it fits good now, and I also cut the wastegate Tube off (the outlet).

Now I need the Wastegate outlet to come straight up about 3-4 inches, can't have it too far cause it will hit the hood, so I need the MATERIAL Brian is using.
And I am going to have it welded.
Turn down tube for the wastegate I can care less.
Where can I get about 4 inches of straight pipe that Brian is using?????
I think it is like 314 or 316 stainless.

It is 1 7/8's I think and I was wondering if I can get like some think exhaust pipe and weld it on there, cause the only thing it needs to do it support the WEIGHT of the Wastgate and the turndown tube, which I will make out of the exhaust pipe.

The reason I was wondering about the waste outlet is because it is so close to the head and stuff, I don't want the exhaust tube to get HOT an COLLAPSE.
And unfortunately it WILL be MIG WELDED, very strong MIG tho.




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I paid for a manifold in NOVEMBER It's great to know I could have ordered and recieved a manfiodl SEVEN times if I knew Brian or talked to him in the time it takes me to get ONE. Jasmin is an awesome guy and increadibly knowledged/wonderful to talk cars with, but this just pisses me the hell off. I am really sick of this. I have never ranted once or said anything bad about Exploited/Brian besides for the occasional "not good for his work".... Come the F*ck on! This is just rediculous. I'm sick of the unfilled promises that "it will ship in a few days" and my all-time favorite so far: "Yes, it will be there before Christmas." I really don't think it has even been started yet. I don't care if you want to give me a refund or actually make my manifold and ship it, but do something. You obviously have the time. You obviously have the resources. DO SOMETHING!!!!



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PS:

This is the reason I am so mad. I ordered every single last piece of this stuff well after I ordered my manifold. I also now have a Greddy rebic 3 simmulator, a greddy turbo timer, a mess of gauge, and various other things like the 3 bar map and other electronics sitting around my bedroom. All of it is wait on this one stupid, simple, little piece. I should have just made it myself.



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heres a link for ya sun

so you already beat your firewall around to fit the turbo?, if not i would sudjest sending that mani. back and getting a kit and make it to fit, hope that helps ya




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R.I.P. Brian Klocke, you will never be forgotten

probably buys them off ebay and resales




04 Sunfire with a hole in the block
Hahn Stage II
350 H.P. to the ground coming very soon

where's my manifold
ordered it more then 2 weeks ago.....

Ok I see thanks Brandon, they do acctually sell the straight pipe.
I just called this one shop here and they told me that they have straights so I am going to them to weld me up some @!#$ tomorrow.

Wish me luck guys.
Thanks

Josh I feel bad for you man



Best time:"""11.946""" @ 114.73 mph @17psi 1.83--60"
11 second daily driver!!!!
Race Related 727-561-9440
Shop of choice for your 11 second J body!

Also, built bottom end and or top end LSJ and L61's available.
13's ----12's ----11's ----10's