I was just looking for those that have the Hahn kit. I just want to know at what rpm your 16g spools at.
I just about to order the Hahn kit and they want to know i want the 20g upgrade. I have never had the 16g so i don't know if i want the 20g.
Hahn said if i go with the 20g upgrade it will only spool 1to two hundred rpm later than the 16g. i believe them but i just don't know what the 16g spools at.
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I was just looking for those that have the Hahn kit. I just want to know at what rpm your 16g spools at.
I just about to order the Hahn kit and they want to know i want the 20g upgrade. I have never had the 16g so i don't know if i want the 20g.
Hahn said if i go with the 20g upgrade it will only spool 1to two hundred rpm later than the 16g. i believe them but i just don't know what the 16g spools at
full boost at about 3k rpms with a stock head and 2.5 exhaust on the 16g. put the 3" exhaust on and it dropped to around 2700 ish. a nice lil notice.
the 20g just came today actually.
if brad said its only a few hundred rpms, then id go with that. honestly, doubt you will notice.. tires will be spinning anyway.
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16G made 12PSI in 4th gear starting from 20MPH by 2650 on my stock setup.
20G SHOULD spool 15PSI by 3K on my setup.
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5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
the last part "tires will be spinning anway" That put the biggest smile on my face. i cant wait.
i'm sure you let everyone know how the 20g and the portfueler turns out.
I've actually ordered the kit yester i have to wait on the rest of my money to get put im my bank and i will be sending the a check. I have the portfueler also so it will be close to yours. This has been a long time in the process.
Thanks for your reply.
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16G made 12PSI in 4th gear starting from 20MPH by 2650 on my stock setup.
20G SHOULD spool 15PSI by 3K on my setup.
You mean you leaving it in 4th gear and just flooring the gas from 20mph you made 12psi by 2650.
Sorry trying to understand.
Basically yeah. I did a LOT of testing on the kit like that. Just to see what results I would get.
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the last part "tires will be spinning anway" That put the biggest smile on my face. i cant wait.
i'm sure you let everyone know how the 20g and the portfueler turns out.
I've actually ordered the kit yester i have to wait on the rest of my money to get put im my bank and i will be sending the a check. I have the portfueler also so it will be close to yours. This has been a long time in the process.
Thanks for your reply.
no problem. i had traction problems with the stock tires on just 12psi. it would break loose in 2nd. im sure hypsy can say the same. i put the nittos on and it barley chirped. the clutch was getting tired as well. it would slip bad in 1st to 2nd. then in 3rd and 4th it was fine.
i will definately let everyone know how the 20g and portfueler works out. plenty of vidz will be made.
http://www.myspace.com/15102113
I'm looking foward to those videos.
dont even think twice, up it to a 20g. the 16g is tiny.,
Holy crap, that's a huge difference.
amen to that. small 16g is too small for a 1.5l sohc honda. 20g is a no brainer
ccfab wrote:amen to that. small 16g is too small for a 1.5l sohc honda. 20g is a no brainer
Ummm...the SUPER 16G that HRC uses is PERFECT for a stock 2.2L Ecotec. TOTALLY PERFECT. Quick boost, gobs of power, and enough pressure to go to the limits of the motor.
The 20G is HUGE compared to the 16G, obviously, but should IMHO be used on cars that are going to be running higher boost and be pushing for some serious numbers. Not exactly a stock motor turbo IMO just because of the insane power it CAN put out. It'll work awesome on a stock motor, no doubt, but the temptation to up the boost is always there for us boosted guys and the limit comes a lot faster on a 20G.
I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
well the 20g allows you to make the same power more efficently at a lower boost setting.
perhaps the 16g is a descent choice for an evco due to the lower v.e of the engine. but for a few hundred extra dollars id be all over the 20g.
^^^^ thats what i thought, i was looking at your pic on the myspace. I would have never thought that that big turbo
was the 20g its huge.
I'm going with the 20g but only cause i will be building my motor the first of next year. And this car is not my everyday driver. I've had it for almost two years now and it only has a little over 10 thousand on it. I work to much and i drive my truck. So if it blows it blows. IT's going to get built anyway so who cares.
THe difference isn't as big if you hold the 16G at the same height as the 20G
Put the 16G housing on top of the 20G housing and show the real difference.
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5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
yeah def not that big of a difference. i am however curious as to why a MHI turbo was usedrather than a t series turbo, many more options when using a t series unit. cost issue?
I think hahn did it to make it a one off thing...... this way posers couldnt copy there designs and try to sell there stuff at a cheaper price and say its a hahn product
well running a MHI turbo doesnt make it one off. anyone could get ahold of them as cheap or cheaper than a t3 or t3/t4 based slug.
Actually I believe they use Mitsubishi turbos because...well...they started off on DSMs and bikes. Made using Mitsu turbos a good choice since they bolted right up to the DSM manifolds. Now I'm sure Bill has grown used to their reliability and tunability. They can go a long time without needing a rebuild if used properly.
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5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
well thats the case with any turbo.
he must have a descent hookup on the mitsu turbos.
Team Vision Racing (aka hypsy) wrote:Actually I believe they use Mitsubishi turbos because...well...they started off on DSMs and bikes. Made using Mitsu turbos a good choice since they bolted right up to the DSM manifolds. Now I'm sure Bill has grown used to their reliability and tunability. They can go a long time without needing a rebuild if used properly.
And im sure Bill is stil using Mitsu's becuase he knows them pretty well, as stated above, they been using them since day one, so they go with what they know and that is 9/10 of the law on anything. If they were using T-series from day one they would be today, easy to figure out. Besides Garrett is the manufacturer of Mitsu tubros are they not, and Garrett makes great turbos.
MHI turbos are not made by garrett. they are made by mitusbishi heavy industries thats why i refer to them as mhi turbos.
heres a link to their site if your interested.
http://www.mhi.co.jp/gsh/eframe14.htm
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Mitsu is NOT made by Garrett....it's amazing how many times I hear that.
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5K PB: 24:50
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