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Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Tuesday, June 27, 2006 7:57 PM
Just wondering what you guys have done to intercool the eco SC, what parts you have used and how you have it mounted up.

I don't think to many have integrated it into the stock cooling system, but that would be interesting to hear about as well.

Also, if anyonew can mention what IAT's were before and after that would be great....


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Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:52 PM
I just recerived my hoses today in the mail so I'll set mine up tonight and tomorrow. I'll get some IAT temps before and after for you too.

I'm on a stock pulley right now too but going to the 3.0 in the next week or so. I want to get the intercooler/heat exchanger up and running first.

Set up:

ZZPerformance Intercooler Pump
Aftermarket 03/04 Cobra Heat Exchanger (27X6X3, I think?)
Cobalt SS Resevior (need a bigger one!)
3/4 inch heater hose to all parts and running a 90 degree elbow on the TB to a RK Sport WAI
(heat exchanger is mounted to the front bumper by welding brackets on it)
All on it's own cooling system too, not integrated with the engine's coolant

Should have something in the next few days.





Eh...old man with a Corvette now...it was bound to happen sooner rather than later right?
Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:05 AM
who are you calling a hoe?




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Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 5:32 AM
^^^^ Lol.

I wouldn't mind seeing how everyone has their heat exhcnager's setup. I'm trying to find parts/ideas for mine so i'm sure it will help me as well as other.



Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 6:01 AM
listening... I have a parts list at home which *should* include everything needed but haven't bought or installed anything yet. might post it later



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Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:03 AM
im using alot of the stock redline/cobalt ss/sc parts , and a heat exchanger off ebay (same one airtonics is using)







Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:05 AM
my advice to those building setups... you can get the stock gm pump, but i'd get a bigger reservoir (preferably one with a big cap to be able to put ice in it) and a bigger heat exchanger.... most of the cobalt SS guys with smaller pullies are starting to find the stock intercooler inadequate. Don't bother buying all the oem stuff if you're looking to really push it.




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Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 12:50 PM
funny thing about that GM has taken the 2 core heat exchangers out of their race cars and gone back to the stock cores

but they are modifing them slightly , they are making the coolant run up and down several times through the core instead of doing it once







Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:36 PM
Does somebody have a nifty little diagram showing how all of this works together?



Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:52 PM
Admiral Jedi wrote:Does somebody have a nifty little diagram showing how all of this works together?


Phlatcav does. Hopefully he'll post it here.




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Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:04 PM


I think this is Phlatcav's picture you're talking about.

Is the heat exchanger powered in any way?

What kind of coolant is to be used? Distilled water?

Is this all rigged up to a switch so it can be enabled and disabled?





Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:18 PM
The water pump runs the coolant though the whole system. I have my pump wired up to a relay that comes on when the key is in the ignition (on, acc). Im using Dexcool, its recommended by gm for the manifold and my heatexchanger is from a cobra and ford recomends using excool in it as well.






Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:23 PM
Awesome, thanks for the info.

Say you want to listen to the radio in a parking lot waiting for somebody. (I do it often) Would it hurt to have Dexcool pumping through the intercooler system?

What is the life of Dexcool?

How strong does the waterpump need to be?

Thanks for taking the time to answer...



Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Wednesday, June 28, 2006 10:46 PM
5year 150,000 miles on the coolant


the pump should last a long time , atleas the gm or ford pumps should, not sure about the other aftermarket pumps







Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:33 AM
[quote=97cavie24ls(JDM&00s/c sedans™)]funny thing about that GM has taken the 2 core heat exchangers out of their race cars and gone back to the stock cores

but they are modifing them slightly , they are making the coolant run up and down several times through the core instead of doing it once

yeah but aren't they also running a MUCH larger intercooler core and reservoir? And by race car you mean the phase 5 cobalt program cars or the big cars like kubo and gardella? i didn't think either of them were still using anything from the stock intercooler, I know they don't use the laminova core-in manifold setups...




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Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:48 AM
nice diagram phlatcav, very good info !



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Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:16 AM
That diagram helps me SOOO much, lol.



Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:42 AM
Scarab (Jersey Jay 1.8T) wrote:[quote=97cavie24ls(JDM&00s/c sedans™)]funny thing about that GM has taken the 2 core heat exchangers out of their race cars and gone back to the stock cores

but they are modifing them slightly , they are making the coolant run up and down several times through the core instead of doing it once


yeah but aren't they also running a MUCH larger intercooler core and reservoir? And by race car you mean the phase 5 cobalt program cars or the big cars like kubo and gardella? i didn't think either of them were still using anything from the stock intercooler, I know they don't use the laminova core-in manifold setups...


the grand am cup cars , that run on the road courses , as far as i know they are using all stock componets now for the intercooler system , just the heat exchanger has been modified

also you cant change the size of the cores in the intake manifold


the phase 5 cars are turbo charged , and for drag racing




Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:47 PM
Oh ya like the diagram ey? Hows about this?....


Here you can see the hose from the upper port on the manifold going to the resivoir. I used a premade 90degree elbow and a hose connecter.





Here is the hose leaving the resivoir on its way to the heatexchanger. Notice it runs alongside the radiator and the headlight (i had to trim the headlight bracket) and down to another premade 90degree. This step MAY be diff for you if you have your AC condensor on the front.





Here is the hose leaving the heatexchanger on its way to the water pump. Notice it has a 90degree comming off the exchanger and into a long 5/8 hose that runs its way into a wide turn into a hole in the fender linner. From here it runs into the water pump (strapped to that lower engine coolant line). On the other side of the pump that has a port facing strait up there is another pre made 90degree hose running into the lower part of the manifold.





Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:14 PM
How exactly did you mount the intercooler itself and to what?



Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:28 PM
[quote=97cavie24ls(JDM&00s/c sedans™)]im using alot of the stock redline/cobalt ss/sc parts , and a heat exchanger off ebay (same one airtonics is using)

97cavie,
how are u using one on your ld9 s/c? there is now housing for coolant to go thru.? Or did i completly miss that?

Nate



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Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:20 PM
his girl has an eco





Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:21 PM
03supercharged wrote:How exactly did you mount the intercooler itself and to what?


Mounted it just like a front mount intercooler.






Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Thursday, June 29, 2006 10:54 PM
C24s/c wrote:[quote=97cavie24ls(JDM&00s/c sedans™)]im using alot of the stock redline/cobalt ss/sc parts , and a heat exchanger off ebay (same one airtonics is using)


97cavie,
how are u using one on your ld9 s/c? there is now housing for coolant to go thru.? Or did i completly miss that?

Nate


Phlatcav wrote:his girl has an eco


yup , and a gtp also


LOL , gotta love them s/c's







Re: Hoe are YOU intercooling your eco SC?
Friday, June 30, 2006 6:00 PM
thought you guys would like this , its a clip on how the eco s/c and intercooler works

http://www.fastfieros.com/tech/ecotecflow.wmv






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