Are the J-body performance stage 3 cams the same thing as the Zero Level Tri FLow , ive heard they are the same , any truth to this does anyone know, theres quite a price difference between the 2
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do you mean Level Zero cam's!!
from what i read and looked at they are the same. I myself went with the level zero ones bc of the price
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How are these with a stock yune? Throw any codes?
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well according to their site its supposed to be 19-23hp with no codes that sounds good to me
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Dario has the Jbody perf. stage 3 cams in his car not sure if he has any dyno/ track numbers yet or if he is having any issues with them.
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Rodimus Prime wrote:well according to their site its supposed to be 19-23hp with no codes that sounds good to me
when i see a dyno done to a car owned by someone i trust, maybe i'll believe that... until then, i'd need a vid of the dyno that pans right to the computer screen to believe it.
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anyway I don't believe you can run these cams with a s/c, though i might be wrong...
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Rodimus Prime wrote:well according to their site its supposed to be 19-23hp with no codes that sounds good to me
Matthew... what set of cams do you think I had?
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These arent the same cams you had phil
they are for both na and forced induction
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ummm...
Matthew... I had 3 different sets of cams from LZM... well 2 from LZM and 1 from colt which was a variation of LZM... I had them all buddy
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- Yes they are the same as the JBP stage threes.
- No they don't give 19-23 horsepower. 12-15 maybe on a good day, 10-12 on a regular.
- Very ecu friendly, which also means very drivable (no lope). Personally I love the stage 2's and if you have the means to make the ecu happy I'd go with these anyday. They are still the biggest cam I've seen that you can get off the shelf. The stage 2's are pure N/A cams though and you would be better off with stock cams then them in a FI setup.
- Yes you can run them with a forced induction set up (I have a set in my car) but for the best gains I would degree them differently (I cut the overlap by 6* in my car) or just go with something designed for specifically for boost.
- Actually Phil you never had these. These were developed becasue of the issues with the Stage 2's on some cars.
LIVID wrote:- Yes they are the same as the JBP stage threes.
- No they don't give 19-23 horsepower. 12-15 maybe on a good day, 10-12 on a regular.
- Very ecu friendly, which also means very drivable (no lope). Personally I love the stage 2's and if you have the means to make the ecu happy I'd go with these anyday. They are still the biggest cam I've seen that you can get off the shelf. The stage 2's are pure N/A cams though and you would be better off with stock cams then them in a FI setup.
- Yes you can run them with a forced induction set up (I have a set in my car) but for the best gains I would degree them differently (I cut the overlap by 6* in my car) or just go with something designed for specifically for boost.
- Actually Phil you never had these. These were developed becasue of the issues with the Stage 2's on some cars.
12-15... HELL NOW.... 10-12... MY ASS!!!!
ecu friendly? - if you call constant codes... hella rich and no timing ecu friendly.. then so be it
No lope? My left nut.... my car sounded like a freakin cammed 383 stroker motor... on both the stage 3's and stage 2's
yes livid... I HAVE had them.. and SOLD them....
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well the only others out there are the comp cams turbo or blower grind which ive heard were not even tested at all
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maybe I am mistaken... I had one set of stage 3's a set of stage 2's and then an "updated" set of stage 2's both stage 2's from LZM.....
unless then now ahve 3 sets of stage 2's or a 3rd updated version
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anyone have results on a boosted car with the tri flows?
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Rodimus Prime wrote:well the only others out there are the comp cams turbo or blower grind which ive heard were not even tested at all
they were tested on JUST an engine.. not an in car dyno...
rodimus has also pointed out that these "NEW" stage 2 cams came out within the last 4 months.. so the 2 sets of lzm stage 2's I've had and the colt stage 3's (extreme lzm stage 2's) so techincally 3 stage 2 lzm's just one set of really extreme stage 2 or stage 3 colt cam absed off the grinds colt did for lzm...
either way all 3 were junk... but the last set of 'updated" stage 2's I had at least gained me 3 whp and the 16 lb ft of torque I lost from the stage 3's and first stage 2's
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