I am trying to make about 200-210whp with a custom turbo set-up, running about 8psi with a built head and the proper fuel upgrades with my 2200(LN2). I was wondering has anyone done this before, the most power I have heard of anyone making on a stock bottom end was around 220 on 10psi with no headwork done (correct me if I am wrong), and that was Lee. I know that the trick to getting a lot of power out of a turbocharged engine is getting it to breathe right. Anyone got any suggestions on what kind of parts I might need? I am trying to see if it is even worth my time or if I should just put the money into an ecotec motor swap.



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you should with a built head, just get her tuned right.................................................

Lee




JDM Civic Hatch
Status: Parting Out Turbo Kit....
14.224 @ 102.01MPH @ 5.5psi.... 2.3 60'
Next: Civic JDM B16a2 w/GSR LSD Turbo - Goal 300whp 1400lbs...

ECO swap. Sorry to say it but you can get 200 hp NA with and ECO. true it will take some work but it can be done. Forced induction ECO's are running in the high 11's and low 12's when built properly. And yea they are still streetable. I dare say your 2.2 could NEVER do that.






Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.

Jackalope wrote:ECO swap. Sorry to say it but you can get 200 hp NA with and ECO. true it will take some work but it can be done. Forced induction ECO's are running in the high 11's and low 12's when built properly. And yea they are still streetable. I dare say your 2.2 could NEVER do that.

thats a load of crap!

an ohv could deffintly make 200 whp. im not sure where your getting your information from. but its wrong. I think you need to do a search on mike karas. and then tell me that a ohv cant make 200 whp.

yes ecos are supiorior engines but in no way are ohvs incapable of 200 whp


"Kick azz is my boost hero!!! "

No no no no. I was saying in N/A trim a 2.2 can't hit 200 HP. I know they can boosted.

Sorry for any confusion.




Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.

im sic and tired on everyone putting down the 2200's



JBO'S Mr. 64.....

Oh good grief ! I'm not putting it down. He asked which would be better and I told him my opinion. I'm not hateing on the 2.2 I'm just saying the ECO is a better engine.




Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.

THe ecotec is a better engine. PERIOD. I have the 2200, and you all know what it is capable of. There is another guy running 15psi on his 2200 DAILY, who ever said it wasn't possible. because it is. PERIOD. I run with WRX STI's, 350z, and all those other fast little sports cars in my cavalier.........

yes the eco is into the 11's with the stock bottom end. I really hope to be in the mid 13's with my stock motor........

another thing people don't realize is I spent a load of money to get my car over the 225whp marker.

just some food for thought, here are my mods.

Mods so far Include:

T3 Garrett Turbo Charger
30" Front Mount Intercooler
2" Mandrel Bent Charge Pipes
Super Sequential B.O.V
Custom Turbo Header
Custom 2.5" Downpipe
Holley Adjustable 4:1 FMU
Ford Red Top Injectors (330cc)
Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator
RSM Supercharger Reflash
RSM 62mm Throttle Body
RSM Ported Intake Manifold
RSM Lightened Crank Pulley
Custom Oil Dipstick Tube
Custom Fiero Screw-in IAT sensor
Custom 4 wire Primary o2 sensor
10.2mm Performance Wires
Solid Engine Mounts
Custom 3" Mandrel Bent Downpipe back Exhaust System With Side Exit
KYB Struts, with KYB Lowering Springs
Rear Strut Bar, Front Sturt Bar
Full 8 Point Custom Engine Grounding Kit
Optima Red Top battery Relocated to the trunk
Curb Weight: 2350lbs

thats A LOT of stuff, done to the motor, I have basically every external bolt on you can get for the 2200, other then an alt pulley.

and I broke the 200whp mark no problem.

Lee






JDM Civic Hatch
Status: Parting Out Turbo Kit....
14.224 @ 102.01MPH @ 5.5psi.... 2.3 60'
Next: Civic JDM B16a2 w/GSR LSD Turbo - Goal 300whp 1400lbs...

DAMN ! Thats an impressive list there ! Must have cost you an arm and a leg.

So now that you only have one arm and one leg how do you race ? JK !


Oh and I never said it wasn't possible. Please read my posting for yourself rather then someone else's post that mis read mine originaly.




Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.

^^^ oh I wasn't saying you said it wasn't possible, just the general public that doesn't believe in the 2200..... I know you have faith and you were just stating that the ECOTEC IS THE BETTER MOTOR HANDS DOWN,

come on I drive the 2200 and i STILL agree that the eco romps the 2200..........

PERIOD.

THE END

GO HOME



and I drive just fine, because I got all the RSM parts listed above from OTHER people, that spent the money with RSM so I didn't have to. FORGET THAT.

Lee




JDM Civic Hatch
Status: Parting Out Turbo Kit....
14.224 @ 102.01MPH @ 5.5psi.... 2.3 60'
Next: Civic JDM B16a2 w/GSR LSD Turbo - Goal 300whp 1400lbs...

well i agree that the eco is the better engine, buit people just need to realize that alot of swaps and stuff are out of the question for some people.

like in my case... ill never switch to an eco because

1. its too much work
2. the cost.

the cost of motor swaps are rediculous. so what im doing is buying a spare 2200 at a junk yard, getting a rebuild kit for little to nothing and then preparing for nitrous or boost (prolly nitrous) but anyway when all thats done ill still prolly be somewhere around 2,000 dollars, and that about what the eco swap on a 95-99 j would cost, and ill prolly be pushing well over the 140 stock eco hp...

thats my thought though



JBO'S Mr. 64.....

Cool, My bad. The 2200 is a reliable little engine that can run forever if taken care of.
That is what it was made for, My mom has an 89 Cavi with a 2.0 ( basicly the same engine. same design anyway ) and it has well over 200,000 miles on it.
I wasn't hateing just wanted that to be clear.

RSM are crooks glad you didn't get butt raped by them.







Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.

^^^^ true enough.......

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forget the juice, because when your run out, your not any higher then the eco's numbers

Lee




JDM Civic Hatch
Status: Parting Out Turbo Kit....
14.224 @ 102.01MPH @ 5.5psi.... 2.3 60'
Next: Civic JDM B16a2 w/GSR LSD Turbo - Goal 300whp 1400lbs...

turbos require alot and i mean alot of maintenance. plus they cost a crap load too, for gas, setups, the whole shabang but definetly worth it. im just going the juice route cause its cheaper. unless someone can put me together a turbo setup for 500-700 dollars.



JBO'S Mr. 64.....

Mr.64 (Shaune Drake) wrote:turbos require alot and i mean alot of maintenance. plus they cost a crap load too, for gas, setups, the whole shabang but definetly worth it. im just going the juice route cause its cheaper. unless someone can put me together a turbo setup for 500-700 dollars.

Actually that's a misconception... boosted cars don't need much more maintenance than any other engine.... they just need to be paid attention to.

As for your comment on a $500 - $700 turbo setup - its possible. But if that's your budget for nitrous.... it's not enough.

A properly setup nitrous system (wet) with all the gauges, bottle heater, supporting mods and safety precautions costs as much as a mild turbo kit... and if you skimp out, it's only a matter of time until you go boom.

On top of that... refills aren't free. I can boost all day every day for the cost of fuel... you gotta fork out to refill that bottle. At around $35-$40 a bottle wouldn't that add up pretty fast? Empty it 30 times and that's $1200 spent.

Ain't so cheap afterall.

-Chris-



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