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I was just wondering if I can fit 3 12" audiobahn subs in the back of my sunfire if I make a custom fiberglass enclosurer.
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if you make it to fit two 12's, then yes, of course it will.
ok my next question is (pair of)1400watts is to much or should I go with (3) 400 watt subs
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Well, 3x 12" out of MDF will fit, so I'd certainly imagine you could make 3x 12" fiberglass fit. As for your amps, people would need to know the model #'s of the subs to know for sure what amps you should be going with.
Take Alpine for example, last years 12" Type-R's were rated something like 300/600W (can't remember for sure) but this years are completely different - 500/1500W. So if I said "I have 3 Type-R 12" subs, what amp(s) should I use?" would get me tons of different answers. Not only are there model years, but there are also different break-ups w/in the size (dual 2 ohm, dual 4 ohm, single 2 ohm, single 4 ohm, etc). So... got model numbers?? And make years would prolly help, I dunno too much about Audiobahn tho...
Theres also the amount of work you want to do on the enclosure to make it look good. Having 3 "floating" amps would look hella cool, but would take a lot more planning & implementing than having 1 or even 2 "floating" amp(s) would.
Sounds like ya'll have some good ideas in your head tho, I'd like to see how it turns out.
always try to overpower the subs. If you have a pair of 1000 watt subs, stick in a 2000w amp or more. Too little power = sub distortion = dead subs and possibly dead amp. I've seen 5 1/2" coaxial speakers take 2000 watts for a matter of about 7 seconds. most wattage I've seen on a 5 1/2" speaker was... about 180 watts to 220w. So, dont worry about overpowering your subs, it all depends on how long. Me, I drive daily with my stereo cranked. I'm no showoff, I like my music loud. I do show common courtesy however to turn it down at night. Save your subs, and grab the smaller ones unless you've got a big amp. You can also grab the bigger subs, (usually harder to blow out) and adjust the amp gain so they dont distort.
ok here is the sub # AUDIOBAHN WOOFER AW-1251Q 12 400 WATTS for the (3 subs) and here is the a pair for the 1400watt sub #AUDIOBAHN WOOFERS AW-1251X (2) 12 1400 WATTS (TOTAL)
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Calvin Di Bartolo wrote:always try to overpower the subs. If you have a pair of 1000 watt subs, stick in a 2000w amp or more. Too little power = sub distortion = dead subs and possibly dead amp. I've seen 5 1/2" coaxial speakers take 2000 watts for a matter of about 7 seconds. most wattage I've seen on a 5 1/2" speaker was... about 180 watts to 220w. So, dont worry about overpowering your subs, it all depends on how long. Me, I drive daily with my stereo cranked. I'm no showoff, I like my music loud. I do show common courtesy however to turn it down at night. Save your subs, and grab the smaller ones unless you've got a big amp. You can also grab the bigger subs, (usually harder to blow out) and adjust the amp gain so they dont distort.
wow...your wrong on SO many levels
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do you guys got any pictures of 3 subs in the back of a sunfire or cavy in a custom encloser?
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too much power means things will break.....but it could work in some cases. Couple of my friends had high output amps and overpowered the subs i.e.....12" sub 600w, and a 1200w amp.....didnt work out too well
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For pics, just seach around. I saw a pic earlier today of the 3-12" sealed MDF box, but now I dunno where it was... P&M is a pretty good place, because a lot of those posts have pics in them.
I dont mean severely overpower them. I'm only goin from what I've read from different articles. Yes, underpowering subs will work, but turn up the volume too high and they distort, which is more or less (from what I've seen) the main reason speakers blow. I run a pair of Jensen 10" 450w subs on 550w each, they take the beating for hours and hours on end. one blew with 1000w going to it (no sound at all) the other now distorts like it's about to blow out, and I have a brand new one (less than 24hrs old) so each jensen is getting 275w. I meant to say if you severely underpowered them, they would distort and blow (like connecting them directly to the deck and using a crossover, like a friend of mine does... blew out a pair of walmart speakers that usually sound really good). I've learned that if they're not extremely overpowered, they can run at peak power for an hour or two. 1/2 peak, run for several more hours (6+), @rms, they can run as long as you want them to (generally speaking... you usually go to bed before they blow
) and 1/2 RMS, they blow out from distortion. of course, if you have the wrong frequencies going to the wrong speakers... then they blow out even faster from distortion.
But since I'm still relatively new to the car audio world (I've only connected 4 amps, 1 capacitor, a 2 amp setup, none more than 1000w, and I've set up my first deck a few days ago... which something is wrong that I'm tryin to figure out) I generally just give out what info I've been informed, and I've tried myself (yes I've overpowered the jensens) and so on and so forth. If I'm wrong, at least someone's here to correct me
is SPL any good?
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Calvin Di Bartolo wrote: I meant to say if you severely underpowered them, they would distort and blow (like connecting them directly to the deck and using a crossover, like a friend of mine does... blew out a pair of walmart speakers that usually sound really good).
You might be suprised. I ran a Lanzar DC series 12" in a pre-fab box off of two channels from a Pioneer HU. Sounded good, got loud enough, and lasted for the 2 months I wanted it to.
After that, took the sub and box out, gave it to a friend, and he ran 750 watts to it for almost 2 years. Never had one problem with it.
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is lanzar any good?
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I'd say it's below even Jensen. Lanzar is the kinda stuff you buy at the flea market. Jensen is at least Wal-Mart/Target/etc
Roughed In wrote:I'd say it's below even Jensen. Lanzar is the kinda stuff you buy at the flea market. Jensen is at least Wal-Mart/Target/etc
The older are amps are pretty good actually. Especially the 1200's. Just your generic 1200d board.
The rest of it, yeah, is pretty cheap, which was my point.
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is lanzar any good like in amps and subs?
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Calvin Di Bartolo wrote:I dont mean severely overpower them.
dude, you said to put 2000 or more on a 1,000 watt sub, that's severly overpowering them.
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I'm only goin from what I've read from different articles.
so you have no experience, and your passing on mis-information. i can't stand people like you
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Yes, underpowering subs will work, but turn up the volume too high and they distort
turn the volume up too high with ANY power and it's gonna distort...that's why it's called "TOO HIGH"
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which is more or less (from what I've seen) the main reason speakers blow.
you said yourself you have no experience..so you obviously haven't seen much...
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one blew with 1000w going to it (no sound at all) the other now distorts like it's about to blow out,
didn't you just say it was OK to push twice the rated power to the sub??
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But since I'm still relatively new to the car audio world (I've only connected 4 amps, 1 capacitor, a 2 amp setup, none more than 1000w, and I've set up my first deck a few days ago... which something is wrong that I'm tryin to figure out) I generally just give out what info I've been informed,
please stop
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thank god there's people like us in the world huh?
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To answer both questions about Lanzar and SPL subs: I had 2 SPL subs running off of two Hifonics BX1800d's and I never had any problems before they were stolen. As for the Lanzar, my next system I'm probably going to be running some of the Opti series subs. They've been getting some really good reviews and they take a beating.
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Lanman31337 wrote: As for the Lanzar, my next system I'm probably going to be running some of the Opti series subs. They've been getting some really good reviews and they take a beating.
That's good to hear. I actually enjoyed their older stuff; 10 years ago; but their recent stuff had left me wanting more.
Glad to hear that they are stepping it up again. Make sure you post a review when you do the install.
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Calvin Di Bartolo wrote:always try to overpower the subs. If you have a pair of 1000 watt subs, stick in a 2000w amp or more. Too little power = sub distortion = dead subs and possibly dead amp. I've seen 5 1/2" coaxial speakers take 2000 watts for a matter of about 7 seconds. most wattage I've seen on a 5 1/2" speaker was... about 180 watts to 220w. So, dont worry about overpowering your subs, it all depends on how long. Me, I drive daily with my stereo cranked. I'm no showoff, I like my music loud. I do show common courtesy however to turn it down at night. Save your subs, and grab the smaller ones unless you've got a big amp. You can also grab the bigger subs, (usually harder to blow out) and adjust the amp gain so they dont distort.
that is the single stupidest post i have ever read until i go to this one
Calvin Di Bartolo wrote:I dont mean severely overpower them. I'm only goin from what I've read from different articles. Yes, underpowering subs will work, but turn up the volume too high and they distort, which is more or less (from what I've seen) the main reason speakers blow. I run a pair of Jensen 10" 450w subs on 550w each, they take the beating for hours and hours on end. one blew with 1000w going to it (no sound at all) the other now distorts like it's about to blow out, and I have a brand new one (less than 24hrs old) so each jensen is getting 275w. I meant to say if you severely underpowered them, they would distort and blow (like connecting them directly to the deck and using a crossover, like a friend of mine does... blew out a pair of walmart speakers that usually sound really good). I've learned that if they're not extremely overpowered, they can run at peak power for an hour or two. 1/2 peak, run for several more hours (6+), @rms, they can run as long as you want them to (generally speaking... you usually go to bed before they blow ) and 1/2 RMS, they blow out from distortion. of course, if you have the wrong frequencies going to the wrong speakers... then they blow out even faster from distortion.
if you odnt know what you're talking about please for the love of god, and other peoples car's safety, STFU!!!!!
just sit back and let those who actually know what they're talking about help, and maybe you'll learn something yourself
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That's good to hear. I actually enjoyed their older stuff; 10 years ago; but their recent stuff had left me wanting more.
I used to love old lanzar, and pyle drivers, and yes, pyramid super pro super blues. They would all take a beating. I'll probably have 2 or 3 of the lanzar opti 12's (2 1232d's or 2 1234d and 1 1232d's) off of an MA audio HK401 running 1/2 ohm.
I know I'm getting off-topic again, but you got me thinking about old school, like old orion and punch amps could be run down to 1/4 ohm, but they'd catch on fire ~:
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dude, you said to put 2000 or more on a 1,000 watt sub, that's severly overpowering them.
If you go back and read the post, he said that if you have a pair (ie 2 subs) that are rated to handle 1000 watts then get a 2000 or higher watt amp to push them, which is not overpowering them.
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dude, you said to put 2000 or more on a 1,000 watt sub, that's severly overpowering them.
If you go back and read the post, he said that if you have a pair (ie 2 subs) that are rated to handle 1000 watts then get a 2000 or higher watt amp to push them, which is not overpowering them.
he also said..
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how about 6 tens and i still could do a few more if i had them.
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