I'm hoping to swap an RB26DETT into my 2000 Z24 cavalier.
There are definently a few major issues I know I'm going to run into, but I'm going to ask this first....
Is it even possible?
Here's the other questions/issues if it's actually possible.
1. Can I find a way to mate it to my existing automatic transmission?
2. If I have to use the stock RB26 transmission, what do I need to do to make it work with my Z24?
3. What will I need to do to the engine compartment/frame to fit the new motor, if anything?
4. Has anyone done this particular swap before? I can't seem to find anything online about it.
P.S. I'm thinking that if someone can throw a Northstar V8 into a Z24 then an RB26DETT L6/N1 should be no problem.
If it's no problem, why have you not completed the swap yet?
The problem is the Northstar is also a FWD mounted motor not RWD. That's your whole issue, the Z24 is a FWD car so it is not designed to house a drive shaft and the under hood area isn't big enough to mount an engine longitudinal for RWD applications
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Jookycola wrote: it is not designed to house a drive shaft and the under hood area isn't big enough to mount an engine longitudinal for RWD applications
no, its not designed to but your wrong about it not being big enough. plenty of 3rd gen j's have been converted to RWD using big ass v8's and such. the engine bay is actually pretty big.
We all need somebody to believe in something...
If youre driving a cavalier, you probably dont have the money required to accomplish the task, thats the main reason, nobody does crazy swaps on this platform, cause most of us are broke asses.
TheSundownFire (GME Chat) wrote:Ive done it.
Twice.
Sundown,
If you are being serious....
What motor did you swap exactly and what advice would you give on mounting?
Also, thanks to the people that actually made intelligent, constructive comments/criticisms.
As for you pretentious and egotistical douches that made worthless, typical internet comments.....
1st.... You can go to another thread and talk your crap.
If you want to offer actual advice for what I intend to do....
Feel free to get off your high horse make CONSTRUCTIVE comments.
2nd.... I'm not broke. I'm an Architectural Engineer/CAD Tech and an Extrusion Line Operator/Team Leader. Those two jobs together
do take alot of time, but they pay great. Especially the CAD job which I do from home.
So I could most likely come up with workable solutions on my own, given time, but I would like to see what others have done, and LEARN from EXPERIENCE. I can more the afford the $9,100 for the N1 Spec RB26DETT and would only need to save for awhile for the $13,000 Fine Spec RB26DETT.
3rd.... I want to make this car fun and bought it used and cheap because I want to work on it and improve it. I'm sure that even you people can understand the good feeling you get from taking something old and beat up or damaged and making it look freakin' sweet. Almost everyone here should understand the feeling you get from making a car truly your own.
4th.... This is a project car that I intend to make into a real badass (for a cav). I am doing a ton more the just this engine swap. It's actually the last thing on a long list of future enhancements and alterations.
5th and finally.... I have access to a full machine shop and will be doing a photo journal of this as well as posting the progress here once it all begins. I will also be doing CAD renderings, diagrams, and animations of everything I do to the car. There will be interior, body, suspension, electrical, and exhaust work done, all completely unrelated to the engine swap.
So.....
If you have any real knowledge
(non-conflicting)
[Ex. Tikles: The RB is too long to mount like like the 4-banger, the RB wont bolt to your RWD tranny."
JOOKYCOLA: "That's your whole issue, the Z24 is a FWD car so it is not designed to house a drive shaft to share about this"].....
Feel free to share it and make sure it's accurate. Here I have one person saying my car is RWD and the motor is FWD and one saying the motor is RWD and my car is FWD.
Obviously the latter is correct... But still... Don't even comment if you don't know the facts.
Zach Simmons wrote:TheSundownFire (GME Chat) wrote:Ive done it.
Twice.
Sundown,
If you are being serious....
What motor did you swap exactly and what advice would you give on mounting?
He is not. And you are dumber than i thought for believing him.
Zach Simmons wrote:
Also, thanks to the people that actually made intelligent, constructive comments/criticisms.
As for you pretentious and egotistical douches that made worthless, typical internet comments.....
1st.... You can go to another thread and talk your crap.
If you want to offer actual advice for what I intend to do....
Feel free to get off your high horse make CONSTRUCTIVE comments.
2nd.... I'm not broke. I'm an Architectural Engineer/CAD Tech and an Extrusion Line Operator/Team Leader. Those two jobs together
do take alot of time, but they pay great. Especially the CAD job which I do from home.
So I could most likely come up with workable solutions on my own, given time, but I would like to see what others have done, and LEARN from EXPERIENCE. I can more the afford the $9,100 for the N1 Spec RB26DETT and would only need to save for awhile for the $13,000 Fine Spec RB26DETT.
3rd.... I want to make this car fun and bought it used and cheap because I want to work on it and improve it. I'm sure that even you people can understand the good feeling you get from taking something old and beat up or damaged and making it look freakin' sweet. Almost everyone here should understand the feeling you get from making a car truly your own.
4th.... This is a project car that I intend to make into a real badass (for a cav). I am doing a ton more the just this engine swap. It's actually the last thing on a long list of future enhancements and alterations.
5th and finally.... I have access to a full machine shop and will be doing a photo journal of this as well as posting the progress here once it all begins. I will also be doing CAD renderings, diagrams, and animations of everything I do to the car. There will be interior, body, suspension, electrical, and exhaust work done, all completely unrelated to the engine swap.
No one cares. Bottom line is that the RB is too big to fit in the engine bay(doesnt matter how you mount it). The funniest thing is how your logic says that if a Northerstar can fit, then the RB will. Do you even know the differences between V-8 engines and Inline-6 engines?
Zach Simmons wrote:
If you have any real knowledge
(non-conflicting)
[Ex. Tikles: The RB is too long to mount like like the 4-banger, the RB wont bolt to your RWD tranny."
JOOKYCOLA: "That's your whole issue, the Z24 is a FWD car so it is not designed to house a drive shaft to share about this"].....
Feel free to share it and make sure it's accurate. Here I have one person saying my car is RWD and the motor is FWD and one saying the motor is RWD and my car is FWD.
Obviously the latter is correct... But still... Don't even comment if you don't know the facts.
Thanks for pointing out my mistype, it is fixed now. BTW, you forgot the "n" in my name.
Tinkles wrote:
Thanks for pointing out my mistype, it is fixed now. BTW, you forgot the "n" in my name.
I like Tikles better. haha
Tickles really does work.
To the op in all honesty it really isn't worth the time. If you spend some time around here you will see that there are a lot of cav and sunfires that are badass and have more than capable engines. The car would have to be custom built from the ground up and the only way it would resemble a GM vehicle is if it looks like it or you use a few of the original parts. Even with access to a machine shop the scope of this build won't be cheap. Some guys would help with small projects but that doesn't mean they won't laugh when you say yea I want to do this maybe for Free? So a good piece of advice which came up before is if you really want to use the RB get a 240 or a 300 or something meant at least for RWD. If you want to make a cavalier a badass car then you should lurk around the forum and read to see what people have done to make some of these amazing cars. ( By the way some of those pretentious douches are the ones with the "best" cars here).
I am sorry dude but you came off as a bit of an idiot by not looking around and trying to figure it out and see what has been done yet. Anything absolutely anything can be done it just takes smart, logic, money and work.. oh and a true desire to do it.
By the way why would you want to use a 4t40e or 3t30e transmission on such a capable and legendary engine instead of using the transmission that was made to work with it?
I accidentally the SHIFT LIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
The proper way of using the word seen. It is not I seen it that would be I saw it. He has seen the car is the right way to use the word. English class is Cool. By the way thats my sig
If you are going to put a RB in your car Im going to swap a LBZ and Allison 1000 into my car. Its only a V8 so it should fit better.
I dont mind being a "pretentious and egotistical douche" toward people that ask stupid questions. For as many times as these types of questions are asked you would think that someone claiming they have the know how and equipment to do it would actually DO IT. I will retract my comments if you go through but as of now you seem like the typical "douche" that makes these threads.
Dude I am putting a train engine in my next J its gonna be tyte boi.
I would think that an architectural engineer would be able to look at the project and start figuring a lot of this out.
I accidentally the SHIFT LIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
The proper way of using the word seen. It is not I seen it that would be I saw it. He has seen the car is the right way to use the word. English class is Cool. By the way thats my sig
Also the fact you thought your stock fwd transmission might bolt up to a rwd engine is funny enough in itself, this to me just means this swap will never be accomplished by you, since you fail the knowledge of realizing that there is no way you can mix manufacturers transmissions, or the fact you cant make a fwd transmission rwd since it is transversely mounted
Erik Packard
Not to get off topic
i forget what honda forum but they put a S2000 motor in a civic but every thing is 100% custom
i dont know much about hondas, but the s2000 is 4cyl and so is a civic, so at least it'd fit in the engine bay, unlike a skyline engine in a cav, thats just ridiculous
Just move to Canada and buy yourself a GTR.
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If everyone thinks this isn't really worth it, then @!#$ IT.
I'll take the advice.
Any suggestions for a badass V8 or V6 that I could throw into it?
BTW sorry for double post....
I wasn't intending on using my name.
Not sure why it didn't automatically use my nick.
Also, I would be willing to go with an EcoTech as a last resort.
