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sunfire engine swap
Wednesday, February 24, 2010 7:22 PM
I'm looking to swap my inline 4 2.4L, to a V6 3.4L and am looking for some advice and basic price quotes.

Re: sunfire engine swap
Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:42 PM
Search the 3rd gen forum, you should find everything you need to know.





Re: sunfire engine swap
Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:40 PM
Basic price quotes? On what?

Sounds like you don't even know what you need or where to start. Once you figure that out, then you can start looking around for those parts and figuring out some prices. Don't expect the motor swap to be a hand out by any standard.





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Re: sunfire engine swap
Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:43 PM
i'll do it for $10,000 and a case of beer.




Re: sunfire engine swap
Sunday, February 28, 2010 7:53 PM
Ill do it for $9999 and a case of beer.



Re: sunfire engine swap
Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:13 PM
damn you sundown.




Re: sunfire engine swap
Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:28 PM
ill do it for 5k and a case of miller light...


but seriously....ill do the labor for 5k plus u find the parts and yes i will help find them but no i will not pay for anything as its not my ride....



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Re: sunfire engine swap
Monday, March 01, 2010 10:39 AM
Five thousand bucks for the install plus parts? That seems a little steep....

Buy a Grand Am with a 3.4, get a Mega Squirt, and the 2.2 transmission, I'm paying around $1300 for parts (and selling a bunch off of the Grand Am, so my costs of buying are levelling out), and then my husband is a Mechanic, he'll be doing the swap.

It's the easiest we've found how to do it. We also need motor mounts from an older Grand Am. Other then those 4 things, you're sailing. But yes, finding someone to install it could be hard to do... But good god, $5000!?!



Re: sunfire engine swap
Monday, March 01, 2010 12:20 PM
-sunnirae- wrote:Five thousand bucks for the install plus parts? That seems a little steep....

Buy a Grand Am with a 3.4, get a Mega Squirt, and the 2.2 transmission, I'm paying around $1300 for parts (and selling a bunch off of the Grand Am, so my costs of buying are levelling out), and then my husband is a Mechanic, he'll be doing the swap.

It's the easiest we've found how to do it. We also need motor mounts from an older Grand Am. Other then those 4 things, you're sailing. But yes, finding someone to install it could be hard to do... But good god, $5000!?!


Yeah, but people that don't wanna do research or look up simple thing like an engine for themselves, get charged the big bucks.





i find it amusing that SHOoff has nothing better to do but follow me around & be an unhelpful dick in even cross-forum. - Jon Mick
Re: sunfire engine swap
Monday, March 01, 2010 2:01 PM
Makes sense. =] My husband did all the research, I'll do all the driving!



Re: sunfire engine swap
Monday, March 01, 2010 4:13 PM
lol




Re: sunfire engine swap
Monday, March 01, 2010 6:09 PM
-sunnirae- wrote:We also need motor mounts from an older Grand Am.
Check the new GP for V6 mounts in the GP forum. Upper and lower mounts that work with the 3400 as it comes in the GA. No need to swap everything to the old style setup.





Re: sunfire engine swap
Monday, March 01, 2010 8:36 PM
-sunnirae- wrote:Five thousand bucks for the install plus parts? That seems a little steep....

Buy a Grand Am with a 3.4, get a Mega Squirt, and the 2.2 transmission, I'm paying around $1300 for parts (and selling a bunch off of the Grand Am, so my costs of buying are levelling out), and then my husband is a Mechanic, he'll be doing the swap.

It's the easiest we've found how to do it. We also need motor mounts from an older Grand Am. Other then those 4 things, you're sailing. But yes, finding someone to install it could be hard to do... But good god, $5000!?!

U realise that with a 2000+, u can use the wiring and PCM from a 00 impala and ALL the gauges work?



Re: sunfire engine swap
Tuesday, March 02, 2010 6:44 PM
What gauges aren't going to work? From all the research we've done, we should be good to go?

And I'll take a peak at the GP! Thanks!



Re: sunfire engine swap
Thursday, March 04, 2010 11:10 AM
All the gauges and check engine lights work with the 2000+ cars and 2000-2001 Impala pcm.



Re: sunfire engine swap
Friday, March 05, 2010 4:09 PM
But what gauges wouldn't work if I used the Mega Squirt - all of them!?



Re: sunfire engine swap
Friday, March 05, 2010 5:52 PM
^^Yup. MegaSquirt does not run factory gauges, especially on the 00+ vehicles, because everything is in the data stream from the factory ECM. You would have to piggy-back your factory ECM and wiring harness with it.





Re: sunfire engine swap
Saturday, March 06, 2010 1:13 AM
Quiklilcav wrote:^^Yup. MegaSquirt does not run factory gauges, especially on the 00+ vehicles, because everything is in the data stream from the factory ECM. You would have to piggy-back your factory ECM and wiring harness with it.

Not especially hard to do either.
Bonus about this is that it makes the factory wiring stay in place.





i find it amusing that SHOoff has nothing better to do but follow me around & be an unhelpful dick in even cross-forum. - Jon Mick
Re: sunfire engine swap
Saturday, March 06, 2010 6:57 PM
SHOoff, Would you be able to link me with how to piggyback the ECM with a Megasquirt? I really don't want to rip the WHOLE interior apart for my swap, and it's looking like putting in a megasquirt would be the easiest route.
Re: sunfire engine swap
Sunday, March 07, 2010 7:22 AM
No, there isn't a link to how to do it. You just have to go by the wiring diagrams.

Who said anything about ripping the whole dash apart? All piggybacking is done under the hood. Save for maybe tapping into an extra spot on the fuse panel. Nothing big.





i find it amusing that SHOoff has nothing better to do but follow me around & be an unhelpful dick in even cross-forum. - Jon Mick
Re: sunfire engine swap
Sunday, March 07, 2010 12:07 PM
I think he is talking about going the MS/piggyback route instead of ripping the interior apart to change 99 car over to the 00+ electronics.






Re: sunfire engine swap
Sunday, March 07, 2010 2:24 PM
Super thanks guys! My husband has got an idea in his brain. Now I need the Mega Squirt, haha!



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