can any one tell me what j bodys can run on corn gas ???????? can a 2200 run on e85 and if not how do you make it so?????thanx
GM calls it flex fuel. and i am almost certain there are some j's that are built to run on it. It is possible to convert a unleaded gasoline burning vehicle to run on flex fuel but it would be somewhat involved. E-85 is a alcohol fuel mixture composed of 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline. the ethanol mix is produced by the fermentation of plant sugars like corn. However since it is an alcohol based fuel it runs differently and is harsher on engine components. you would need different injectors, fuel pump, and fuel lines. you may also require stronger internals like connecting rods. it is possibile to convert a regular engine to run on E85 but then there is always this. I got this from an E-85 website
Is it possible to convert a vehicle that was designed for gasoline to operate on E85?
Yes and No. It is technically possible, however,
there are no conversion or aftermarket parts that have been certified by the EPA as meeting the standards to maintain clean exhaust emissions.
Technically speaking, converting a vehicle that was designed to operate on unleaded gasoline only to operate on another form of fuel
is a violation of the federal law and the offender may be subject to significant penalties.
No aftermarket conversion company has taken the initiative to certify an E85 kit that would allow a gasoline vehicle to operate on 85% ethanol.
Your better of just finding a J or another car that already runs on it.
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o and i forgot if you decide to run it i your car anyway, sure it may run alright at first but with prolonged use it it corrode through fuel lines, fuel rails, ruin fuel filters, will probably f*ck your injectors. So......yeh there ya go hope i answered all of our questions
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cool i didnt know that....i use 93 and always have in my 2200 iv had it since 02....i get good mpg on 93 if i put 87 in her it runs through like watter........some pepole sey that 93 gets bad mpg but mine gets petter ....i get about 60 extra miles to a tank of gas ..i dont know ware this comes from..??93 make the car run better and faster along with good mpg.....
You can run your current vehicle on Ethanol with Megasquirt and bigger fuel injectors. (you need larger injectors with E85 since you'll need about 30% more fuel). However your fuel system was not designed to run with that high of an alcohol content, so it may cause some serious corrosion.
Also, if you're impressed with your MPG, since you need 30% more fuel with E85 you'll burn through it a lot faster. So you'll most likely get a drop in MPG. Though you can fight that a bit with more agressive timing curves.
yeah my 02 Tahoe is Flex Fuel i have tried a couple tanks of E85 it gets 2-3 mph worse on the E85 than it does on Regular 87 octane
Viperredzed, years ago and i think the last one was made in like 01 or something they had cng versions of the Cavy cng which stood for compressed natural gas was that something similar to your flex fuel tahoe or was it basically a regular unleaded gasoline cavy like the other ones were,
Ask any one that races with the big boys and they will tell you that the mileage on alcohol is POOOOO. I have a buddy that races Late Model dirt, He was a pro stock guy for years and decided to go to dirt, well he wanted to take alcohol with him to the dirt track and found that he couldnt keep up with the other guys running on gas. He would do pretty good for a while then his rear percentage would start to go cause he was burning more fuel that the other guys. it didnt last long and he switched to gas. The other problems with alcohol is you have to drain the fuel system when your not using it because the alcohol corrodes the lines and everything it touches, it attracts moisture like mad too. I also recall changing timing to run it too. I dont think its as easy to switch over as you think. I know that the ford ranger flex fuel 3.0's run a different cylinder head then the straight gas , the ecm flash is different and also the injectors.
If your running an aftermarket ecm you might be able to get it to work but you may still have to get bigger injectors to stay with in a safe AFR.
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Here you go guys....the aftermarket parts are on there way! Check this site out.
http://flexfuelus.com/
Read all you can, I found this site to be the most informative about E85!
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Around where i live there's a gas station that has E-10 what would that do to the car
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Miguel Rios wrote:Around where i live there's a gas station that has E-10 what would that do to the car
pretty much all gas stations have been e-10 for a long time. no worries.
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Ok I've heard some bad stories about running it in the pre 00 cars
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Bill wrote:Viperredzed, years ago and i think the last one was made in like 01 or something they had cng versions of the Cavy cng which stood for compressed natural gas was that something similar to your flex fuel tahoe or was it basically a regular unleaded gasoline cavy like the other ones were,
i am not sure gas door on my tahoe says E85 or regular unleaded also states DO NOT run any fuel additives in the E85. there is no swtches no nothing just the ability to run on the other fuel
as for runing on alcohol my dads Front engine dragster run on Methonal (alcohol) in the morning to start it you have to run a shot of gasoline in the hilborn injections to get it to fire then it runs on the alcohol fine. at the end of the day we empty out the alcohol and run the motor till it hits straight gas then its done/ you typically used 1.5-2xs as much alcohol as regular gas...........but down here race gas - 650-700 dollars a barrel where we can get 45 gallon drums of alcohol for 210
if your are all so worried about gas prices, instead of putting some much time and effort into trying to figure out the best convert your cars, use different gas, etc. spend your time figuring out a way to make more money so you wouldnt have to bitch.
Quiklilcav wrote:More E85 useage just drives up the price of corn anyway. 
Which if you look at it doesn't appear to be a direct problem for most people. Because they look at a can of corn at the store which doesn't cost jack. Maybe a more direct problem with that price increase would be the fact that a lot of items at Taco Bell use corn. Any sort of tortilla item does. Now just think of the times when you're drunk and yo hit up T-bell and end up spending way too much money there. But it being all the time, and when you're sober.
Oh well, I found out they finally put a station here with E85. And I feel that i'm going to make my Cav run on it. Not because it's cheaper, I barely drive the car anyways so it wouldn't make much of a difference. But rather more for the performance value of the Ethanol.
Moar Candy! LAWL wrote:if your are all so worried about gas prices, instead of putting some much time and effort into trying to figure out the best convert your cars, use different gas, etc. spend your time figuring out a way to make more money so you wouldnt have to bitch.
I don't know why you enjoy bragging so much about your massive income that you can piss away money without a thought, but it's getting annoying.
It's especially entertaining, however, that your "solution" to gas prices is "make more money" so you can throw it away easier, rather than to strive to improve existing technology so we don't even have to worry about what the hell the oil prices do or how greedy Exxon becomes (13 billion dollar PROFIT reported a few days ago). You're not better than anyone else, though you may think it. What you have doesn't define you; it's what you do and who you are.
*anxiously awaits unbased attacks and insults that are bound to happen whenever anyone is called out on what they say*
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I NOW know someone who is running E85 on their boosted J
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You know what's funny about all this e85 and corrision and all that crap.
04 F-150 - non flex
06 F-150 - flex
ALL PART NUMBERS MATCH THROUGHOUT THE FUEL SYSTEM AND ENGINE!
Ethanol can run more lean without causing excessive heat therefore you can adjust your tune as such and actually get pretty close to the same economy. I ran e85 for a tank thru my cav and look at that...no problems, just had to adjust the tune and needed too much more fuel for what I was doing. I could probably get it now that I've got bigger fuel lines and 2 aftermarket pumps, a walbro 255 in tank and a msd inline. My problem now would be that my injectors are too small. Only have 60lb/hr inj's. This was something I was going to do this year, but realizing the amount of fuel I was going to be needing for just standard gas I opted to not for this year. Next year is a whole new story though. This is still something I'm going to try. There are huge benefits to be had w/ e85, it's lower burning temp, which reduces egt's and also the octane rating of 105. We shall see what comes of this lil project. I know I've got more than enough fuel to do it on lower boost settings but I'm not wanting to move backwards in that area. As soon as I can find some 80+ lb/hr injectors for my eco I will be giving this a shot.
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