Yes, I know these threads have been beaten to death, but ive been searching the forum all day and can't find specific answers for my needs.
I have a 1995 Cavalier RS. The 2.2ohv seen it's better days and developed some quite heavy internal motor knocks. I would rather not swap another OHV in. Yes, the car is a 5-speed.
The ecotec swap is out of the question as I am not pulling apart the interior and gutting the car.
So what all do I need to swap an LD9 into my car? Will the current Izuzu 2.2 5-speed thats in my car bolt up to the LD9? Basically what is a list of things I need to do the swap and get the gauges working properly so I can give the local junkyards some business and get my car back on the road.
Thanks
You will need the 2.4 tranny, which doesn't bolt up to the 2.2 mounts iirc.
A 3X00 v6 bolts in though, using your factory 2.2 tranny. I had a 1995 2.2 I put a v6 in. It is a really easy swap, wiring was the hardest part, and I did that in one night, in my bedroom.
- Your not-so-local, untrained, uncertified, backyard mechanic. But my @!#$ runs
I did hear that I might not be able to use my tranny, but I heard the 2.4 trans will bolt to the factory 2.2 trans mounts. (Same izuzu trans with a different bell housing if im correct?)
What all did the V6 swap require? What did you need to do it? Factory gauges able to work? I really need to do something soon but it seems like no one is willing to tell me exactly what I need and it's one of those things I can't drag on and buying as I go because it can't be tied up forever. I can't keep driving the trans am, the gas is killing me.
Any info would be sooo greatly appreciated. I plan on picking up a motor/etc somewhere this sunday after I get my paycheck and starting on the swap.
Sorry for not responding sooner, Work. lol
PARTS
*1995 2.3 wiring harness for the 5 speed
*2.3/2.4 isuzu trans (95-99)
*The 2.4 motor (96-98)
*1995 pcm for 5 speed (ECU)
*all the motor accessories... coil packs alternator...etc
*2.4 header and intake with intake pipe
*2.3/2.4 upper motor mount. (1995-2002)
I helped a buddy put a 2.4 in his 95 2.3 quad cavalier and know this works. The wiring in the 1995 cars are f*cked up compared to all the other years. Also... I think I had to use the 2.3 knock sensor on the 2.4. To be honest... I can't remember, lol.
You can't use your current tranny, but the 2.3/2.4 isuzu trans will bolt in where the old 2.2 bolted in the chassis. The guy above is incorrect. Good luck.
thanks freelance!
Searching for a ld9 setup now. Seems pretty hard to find.
what about the 97 engine wiring, 97 PCM, 97 dash wiring, and the 97 cluster (if different).... would the electrical stop there?.... (I know 95s are the bastard year when it comes to electrical)... I figure this way, it would be able to be HPTuned...
I'm on a very strict low budget as it is and on a time crunch, I can't be bothered with changing out the dash wiring or tuning the car. That's why im trying to find a setup that will be pretty much plug & play or else im just going to stick other OHV motor in there. (which im trying to avoid)
I'm mechanically inclined and don't mind changing mounts and stuff but wiring is my nightmare. That's why I like the idea of Freelancer's setup.
i just suggested that, so if you ever decided to build the car, its tunable... other wise you are stuck with a base 150 WHP motor, and thats about as good as it will get...
as for the dash wiring... its not that bad... i can have the dash out in 45 minutes... our dashes are cake...
its up to you though... i was just asking the question because i honestly don't know how feasible a 97 setup is in a 95..
I appreciate all the help I can get.
I'm honestly not worried about going fast at all. My trans am puts down 430hp to the wheels, the cavalier is simply a daily I picked up that I need for gas mileage and to get me around. But I figured since the 2.2 kicked the bucket why not throw something in that has a little more balls? Compared to 115 150 sounds nice haha.
If all else fails I know a guy is selling a complete good-running OHV locally but like i said, I would love an LD9 setup. But after some research it seems like not only is finding a motor & trans hard, it's also gonna be pricey. Starting to look like im stuck with the 2.2..
Mystic02VA (GME Chat) wrote:i just suggested that, so if you ever decided to build the car, its tunable... other wise you are stuck with a base 150 WHP motor, and thats about as good as it will get...
as for the dash wiring... its not that bad... i can have the dash out in 45 minutes... our dashes are cake...
its up to you though... i was just asking the question because i honestly don't know how feasible a 97 setup is in a 95..
yeah. 97 and up is the BEST option out there for tuning and upgrades in the future. The wiring is not bad, it is just the swapping part for all the wiring. You will have to remove the dash, rug, and gas tank, along with the rest of the trim. This is the 97 swap list below...
*97 pcm for 5 speed
*96-98 2.4 motor
*97 body harness (front to back)
*2.3/2.4 isuzu trans (95-99)
*97 engine harness for 5 speed
*96-98 fuel pump
*97-98 cluster for 5 speed.
*all the motor accessories... coil packs alternator...etc
*2.4 header and intake with intake pipe
*2.3/2.4 upper motor mount. (1995-2002)
**97 airbags and sensors'
**97 airbag module
Crappy Legend
(*)reguired
(**) <-- if you care to have airbags
Yeah if anything im doing the 95 setup. But if I can't find a motor & trans setup by the weekend I guess another 2.2 is going in unfortunately. I need my daily back.
1994 Pontiac Trans Am 6-speed
Vortech V1 @ 7psi, Eagle rods, Low compression pistons, Comp Cam, Ported Heads, Roller Rockers, Ported Intake Manifold, Holley 58mm TB, 42# Injectors, MSD Optispark, MSD Coil, F.A.S.T ECU, Crane Cams Ignition, Mid-length headers catless, Hurst shifter, Adjustable panhard bar, ZR1 wheels. She gets the job done.
If anything I might throw the car up for sale with the new motor and just buy an already 2.4 Z24, I can get them cheap around my area.
1994 Pontiac Trans Am 6-speed
Vortech V1 @ 7psi, Eagle rods, Low compression pistons, Comp Cam, Ported Heads, Roller Rockers, Ported Intake Manifold, Holley 58mm TB, 42# Injectors, MSD Optispark, MSD Coil, F.A.S.T ECU, Crane Cams Ignition, Mid-length headers catless, Hurst shifter, Adjustable panhard bar, ZR1 wheels. She gets the job done.
BoostedTurd wrote:If anything I might throw the car up for sale with the new motor and just buy an already 2.4 Z24, I can get them cheap around my area.
lol, I like the name "boostedTurd"
Anyways, the 2.2 motor is pretty good, minus stock head gaskets and stock timing chain guides. The thing is a tank. I have a 97 2.2 and it has been run into the ground and back. Replaced head gasket and had the timing done before me owning it. They are not fast stock, but they last. Again, good luck on whatever decision you make.
Haha thanks. I thought it was creative.
Yeah a guy here on CL has one with 100k miles on it and said it's still in the car, and that I can go hear it run before he pulls it and that it's whisper quiet. And comes with all the accessories and everything.
So if I can't find a 2.4 then ill probably pick up that motor. Definitely slow little boogers but at least they get good gas mileage.
1994 Pontiac Trans Am 6-speed
Vortech V1 @ 7psi, Eagle rods, Low compression pistons, Comp Cam, Ported Heads, Roller Rockers, Ported Intake Manifold, Holley 58mm TB, 42# Injectors, MSD Optispark, MSD Coil, F.A.S.T ECU, Crane Cams Ignition, Mid-length headers catless, Hurst shifter, Adjustable panhard bar, ZR1 wheels. She gets the job done.
what year is the motor coming out of?
A 99. (It says 2200 SFI on the intake)
I figured I could just use my intake manifold and stuff to make it work in my car. As technically the motor itself is pretty much identical correct?
1994 Pontiac Trans Am 6-speed
Vortech V1 @ 7psi, Eagle rods, Low compression pistons, Comp Cam, Ported Heads, Roller Rockers, Ported Intake Manifold, Holley 58mm TB, 42# Injectors, MSD Optispark, MSD Coil, F.A.S.T ECU, Crane Cams Ignition, Mid-length headers catless, Hurst shifter, Adjustable panhard bar, ZR1 wheels. She gets the job done.
negative... the head is different. You have to use the manifolds that come with that engine as well as the 99 wiring, dash wiring, fuel pump wiring/fuel pump.. and with 99... The only thing you won't have to contend with is the BCM that started in 2000...
You are going to need a 95 engine to prevent major wiring issues
Damn,,,
1994 Pontiac Trans Am 6-speed
Vortech V1 @ 7psi, Eagle rods, Low compression pistons, Comp Cam, Ported Heads, Roller Rockers, Ported Intake Manifold, Holley 58mm TB, 42# Injectors, MSD Optispark, MSD Coil, F.A.S.T ECU, Crane Cams Ignition, Mid-length headers catless, Hurst shifter, Adjustable panhard bar, ZR1 wheels. She gets the job done.
Haha, I said the 1995 cars were f*cked up compared to the other years, lol.
1998-2002 2200 motors will not work with your harness... sadly.
You could use a 1996-1997 motor if you wanted, you would just have to...
*swap the crank sensor
*dont hook up the cam sensor (since there is no plug for it in the 95, lol)
*swap over your alternator and brackets
*swap over your coils and ICM
*swap over your egr/upper coolant plate/hose (96-97 had an electronic egr system)
*grab a couple of beers and drink heavily
*maybe swap your injectors ( I would to be safe)
** I also would use your upper plenum/throttle body also to be safe. I am almost sure they are the same, but I also like to pull those things and clean them anyways.
This above list should be it, but I may be missing something.
Still trying to find a cheap motor, 2.2 OR 2.4.. haha. It's been harder then I thought.
1994 Pontiac Trans Am 6-speed
Vortech V1 @ 7psi, Eagle rods, Low compression pistons, Comp Cam, Ported Heads, Roller Rockers, Ported Intake Manifold, Holley 58mm TB, 42# Injectors, MSD Optispark, MSD Coil, F.A.S.T ECU, Crane Cams Ignition, Mid-length headers catless, Hurst shifter, Adjustable panhard bar, ZR1 wheels. She gets the job done.
