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FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:05 PM
So I thought I would post up a FAQ custom exhaust system set up thread for anyone who is curious to know what set up could be pieced together that works and sounds great.

This install is on my LD9 (No EGR)

4-1 Pacesetter header Painted black - PT# 70-1278
2.4L OEM gasket
2.25" Pipe from header to tips
3" Collector with Flex tube
Magnaflow freeflow Cat universal fit PT#HM-99204
22" Magnaflow 4" dia resignator PT#10435
Dual Dynomax Super Turbo Mufflers PT#17747
Dual Camaro rectangular Tips PT#1607<-- Your preference on the tips.

I plan to post up a video if I can get a camera man... but trust be assured, this is a great set up combo.,.. or less I wouldnt be posting this lol.

This would also be a good opportunity for others to post what set up they have... that way people can get ideas when they're in the market for an upgrade.

Post away!















Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Saturday, September 26, 2009 11:49 PM
Simple rule: Choose your exhaust parts like you'd choose a carb: Based upon flow! Just follow this rule of thumb (2.2cfm@10.5in.hg. for every 1hp) and you won't go wrong.


Go beyond the "bolt-on".
Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Sunday, September 27, 2009 12:56 AM
Nickelin Dimer wrote:(2.2cfm@10.5in.hg. for every 1hp)


Explain further? I don't quite get it, but I want to.


2010 Honda Fit LX
Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Sunday, September 27, 2009 7:41 AM
ld9

Pacesetter header(modified for a TRUE 3" collector and downpipe)
3" vband connections
3" CTI tubing
Magnaflow 3" Cat
3" from header to muffler
3" dynomax ultraflow round muffler for resonator
3" dynomax ultra flow oval muffler





Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Sunday, September 27, 2009 9:25 AM
2.2 eco

Tsudo 4-2-1 header
29" louvered cherry bomb ---2.5" diam.
2.5" pipes all the way
Magnaflow high flo univeral Cat.
APEXI World sport 2 muffler

Beautiful at idle, super loud at WOT (partly cause of my sub frame hitting the downpipe)
Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Sunday, September 27, 2009 3:22 PM
Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Sunday, September 27, 2009 3:42 PM
Very nice. I love the look of it. It sounds pretty good. Little too high pitched for my liking when you get on it a bit, but i used to love that sound. >.> I got old. lol
Great vid! Sexy cavy! Awesome color man. nice job all around! **Thumbs Up**



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Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:14 PM
Ebay canadian log manifold
38mm external wg with open dump
2.5" 409 ss downpipe
2.5" 12" long dynomax bullet muffler
3" CTI piping
3" dynomax super turbo



Im turbocharged soo of course the sound is deeper, but just wanted to note how quiet turbo style mufflers are. I replaced my megan cannon muffler with a dynomax super turbo, everything else the same and my exhaust is sooo much quieter now even 3" and catless. I have a 30" long 3" glasspack I was gona put in but done even think I need to anymore.

Also have a question, whats a good exhaust tip companies that arent too expensive? I know magnaflow has plenty of nice factory looking tips, but dont realy wana spend $70 or more for an exhaust tip. Id like something similar to a factory ls sport tip, or an actual stock ls sport tip if I can find one.



Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:42 PM
icemike89 wrote:Ebay canadian log manifold
38mm external wg with open dump
2.5" 409 ss downpipe
2.5" 12" long dynomax bullet muffler
3" CTI piping
3" dynomax super turbo



Im turbocharged soo of course the sound is deeper, but just wanted to note how quiet turbo style mufflers are. I replaced my megan cannon muffler with a dynomax super turbo, everything else the same and my exhaust is sooo much quieter now even 3" and catless. I have a 30" long 3" glasspack I was gona put in but done even think I need to anymore.

Also have a question, whats a good exhaust tip companies that arent too expensive? I know magnaflow has plenty of nice factory looking tips, but dont realy wana spend $70 or more for an exhaust tip. Id like something similar to a factory ls sport tip, or an actual stock ls sport tip if I can find one.


check out vibrant. they have some nice tips.



Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Monday, September 28, 2009 12:32 PM
4drcav wrote:
icemike89 wrote:Ebay canadian log manifold
38mm external wg with open dump
2.5" 409 ss downpipe
2.5" 12" long dynomax bullet muffler
3" CTI piping
3" dynomax super turbo



Im turbocharged soo of course the sound is deeper, but just wanted to note how quiet turbo style mufflers are. I replaced my megan cannon muffler with a dynomax super turbo, everything else the same and my exhaust is sooo much quieter now even 3" and catless. I have a 30" long 3" glasspack I was gona put in but done even think I need to anymore.

Also have a question, whats a good exhaust tip companies that arent too expensive? I know magnaflow has plenty of nice factory looking tips, but dont realy wana spend $70 or more for an exhaust tip. Id like something similar to a factory ls sport tip, or an actual stock ls sport tip if I can find one.


check out vibrant. they have some nice tips.


Thanks! Just got a nice vibrant polished ss tip for much cheaper than a magnaflow.



Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Monday, September 28, 2009 3:50 PM
2200 (cat-back)

22" long 4" round Magnaflow resonator
2.25" piping
18" long, 4"x9" Oval body Magnaflow Muffler
4" rolled Magnaflow tip

Very tame exhaust. Its not stock sounding but it isn't abusive on the ears. Just the way I like it. Very minimal drone at freeway speeds.




Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Monday, September 28, 2009 6:25 PM
LD9 with mp45

Pacesetter 4-1 armor coated header
2.5" downpipe
2.5" magnaflow high flow cat
2.5" cat-back pipe
3" Race Series Magnaflow muffler

Not the best video for showing an exhaust but its one of the few I have with no other cars in it.

http://s975.photobucket.com/albums/ae231/2000greenz24/Videos/?action=view¤t=Miramichi125.flv



Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Monday, September 28, 2009 7:13 PM
icemike89 wrote:
4drcav wrote:
icemike89 wrote:Ebay canadian log manifold
38mm external wg with open dump
2.5" 409 ss downpipe
2.5" 12" long dynomax bullet muffler
3" CTI piping
3" dynomax super turbo



Im turbocharged soo of course the sound is deeper, but just wanted to note how quiet turbo style mufflers are. I replaced my megan cannon muffler with a dynomax super turbo, everything else the same and my exhaust is sooo much quieter now even 3" and catless. I have a 30" long 3" glasspack I was gona put in but done even think I need to anymore.

Also have a question, whats a good exhaust tip companies that arent too expensive? I know magnaflow has plenty of nice factory looking tips, but dont realy wana spend $70 or more for an exhaust tip. Id like something similar to a factory ls sport tip, or an actual stock ls sport tip if I can find one.


check out vibrant. they have some nice tips.


Thanks! Just got a nice vibrant polished ss tip for much cheaper than a magnaflow.


Glad I could help mike!



Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:55 PM
4drcav wrote:
icemike89 wrote:
4drcav wrote:
icemike89 wrote:Ebay canadian log manifold
38mm external wg with open dump
2.5" 409 ss downpipe
2.5" 12" long dynomax bullet muffler
3" CTI piping
3" dynomax super turbo



Im turbocharged soo of course the sound is deeper, but just wanted to note how quiet turbo style mufflers are. I replaced my megan cannon muffler with a dynomax super turbo, everything else the same and my exhaust is sooo much quieter now even 3" and catless. I have a 30" long 3" glasspack I was gona put in but done even think I need to anymore.

Also have a question, whats a good exhaust tip companies that arent too expensive? I know magnaflow has plenty of nice factory looking tips, but dont realy wana spend $70 or more for an exhaust tip. Id like something similar to a factory ls sport tip, or an actual stock ls sport tip if I can find one.


check out vibrant. they have some nice tips.


Thanks! Just got a nice vibrant polished ss tip for much cheaper than a magnaflow.


Glad I could help mike!

Try running the glass-pack between where the cat was & the first bend by the rear axle, then tell us how quiet it is!


Go beyond the "bolt-on".
Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:24 PM
C. Stormy Tan wrote:
Nickelin Dimer wrote:(2.2cfm@10.5in.hg. for every 1hp)


Explain further? I don't quite get it, but I want to.
Okay... Details you want? Then details you shall get!

Carbs are rated not by diameter of their bores (Or area) but by amount of air they flow in CFM (Cubic-feet per minute). That is how the decision on what size carb to go with on a given application is made. After all, you don't want to be holding-back on the amount of air the engine that's been built can breathe, do you? Nor do you wish to make it so big that it can't respond properly to the pressure difference (vacuum) signal & make the engine stumble oddly at "tip-in", making it a miserable handful to drive. So, since this method of decision affects the gases flowing in, it only makes sense to apply it to the gases flowing out as well.

Now that I've got that clear, let's go into it a li'l further...

Carbs... since they're typically used in natural-aspiration apps...are flow-rated under 10.5 inches of vacuum-drop. At least most of them are (Don't get me started about Holleys used on the Mopar 440-6pk!). Using this as an initial guideline for which to base research into flow-rating which exhaust-gas handling parts to choose from, we can then slowly go through trial-&-error in learning where's the point where anything larger would be unnecessary & contributing to increasing exhaust noise.

Thankfully, David Vizard (Contributing editor to Popular Hot-Rodding Magazine & writer of several technical automotive performance books) has done all this for us, and findings show that when going with a size of pipe that has a flow-rating of more than 2.2cfm under 10.5in of vacuum drop (Or 10.5in.hg.) there is no (like, as in: About zero!) significant increase in an engine's power output. Hence the term: 2.2cfm@10.5in.hg. This applies to all pipes, resonators & mufflers chosen to used in the given app. As for specific brand or design, that's just a matter of taste & the result desired in terms of exhaust tone.

Use mandrel bends, not cheapo press-machine bends, and good luck!




Go beyond the "bolt-on".
Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 5:37 PM
Nickelin Dimer wrote:
4drcav wrote:
icemike89 wrote:
4drcav wrote:
icemike89 wrote:Ebay canadian log manifold
38mm external wg with open dump
2.5" 409 ss downpipe
2.5" 12" long dynomax bullet muffler
3" CTI piping
3" dynomax super turbo



Im turbocharged soo of course the sound is deeper, but just wanted to note how quiet turbo style mufflers are. I replaced my megan cannon muffler with a dynomax super turbo, everything else the same and my exhaust is sooo much quieter now even 3" and catless. I have a 30" long 3" glasspack I was gona put in but done even think I need to anymore.

Also have a question, whats a good exhaust tip companies that arent too expensive? I know magnaflow has plenty of nice factory looking tips, but dont realy wana spend $70 or more for an exhaust tip. Id like something similar to a factory ls sport tip, or an actual stock ls sport tip if I can find one.


check out vibrant. they have some nice tips.


Thanks! Just got a nice vibrant polished ss tip for much cheaper than a magnaflow.


Glad I could help mike!

Try running the glass-pack between where the cat was & the first bend by the rear axle, then tell us how quiet it is!


Oh yea Im just afraid it will be too quit for me then lol. Right now my dp is 2 piece: right after the subfram there is a 3-bolt flange, then a 45* pipe and the dynomax res, then another 3-bolt flange that connects to the 3" catback piping which is the factory location. Ill be redoing my setup with a different mani/ dp so I'll prolly put a v-band at the end of the dp and extend the catback piping up further. Whether Ill use the long glasspack or just the short resonator Ill have to see. If I do put the long glasspack on there and its too quiet, that just gives me a reason to get an electronic cutout hah. Turbo spool sounds amazing when open dp



Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 6:42 PM
Well, turbos themselves do act like mufflers... So adding a electric-cutout would be a good way to go when you're ready to race.


Go beyond the "bolt-on".
Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Tuesday, September 29, 2009 7:14 PM
icemike89 wrote: Turbo spool sounds amazing when open dp


this.

when my ecotec swap is finally completed my exhaust setup will be as follows:

pacesetter L61 header
magnaflow highflow cat
18"-22" resonator (cant decide which length really want)
vibrant cat-back
full 2.25" exhaust

ofcourse the resonator will be welded where the cat and vibrant cat-back meet up.



Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Thursday, October 01, 2009 10:04 PM
Nickelin Dimer wrote:
C. Stormy Tan wrote:
Nickelin Dimer wrote:(2.2cfm@10.5in.hg. for every 1hp)


Explain further? I don't quite get it, but I want to.
Okay... Details you want? Then details you shall get!

Carbs are rated not by diameter of their bores (Or area) but by amount of air they flow in CFM (Cubic-feet per minute). That is how the decision on what size carb to go with on a given application is made. After all, you don't want to be holding-back on the amount of air the engine that's been built can breathe, do you? Nor do you wish to make it so big that it can't respond properly to the pressure difference (vacuum) signal & make the engine stumble oddly at "tip-in", making it a miserable handful to drive. So, since this method of decision affects the gases flowing in, it only makes sense to apply it to the gases flowing out as well.

Now that I've got that clear, let's go into it a li'l further...

Carbs... since they're typically used in natural-aspiration apps...are flow-rated under 10.5 inches of vacuum-drop. At least most of them are (Don't get me started about Holleys used on the Mopar 440-6pk!). Using this as an initial guideline for which to base research into flow-rating which exhaust-gas handling parts to choose from, we can then slowly go through trial-&-error in learning where's the point where anything larger would be unnecessary & contributing to increasing exhaust noise.

Thankfully, David Vizard (Contributing editor to Popular Hot-Rodding Magazine & writer of several technical automotive performance books) has done all this for us, and findings show that when going with a size of pipe that has a flow-rating of more than 2.2cfm under 10.5in of vacuum drop (Or 10.5in.hg.) there is no (like, as in: About zero!) significant increase in an engine's power output. Hence the term: 2.2cfm@10.5in.hg. This applies to all pipes, resonators & mufflers chosen to used in the given app. As for specific brand or design, that's just a matter of taste & the result desired in terms of exhaust tone.

Use mandrel bends, not cheapo press-machine bends, and good luck!


Thanks! This is useful information.


2010 Honda Fit LX
Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Saturday, October 03, 2009 10:12 PM
Oh yeah... To get the pulses to think they've reached the end of the system at the end of the header collector & help the rest of the system, built following the guidelines I mentioned, to work properly: Use a catalytic converter with an interior volume equal to that of one cylinder being drawn from by the header. This will isolate the pulses in a effectively make-shift "pressure-wave" chamber that will allow the rest of the exhaust system after it to merely serve duties of handling/reducing noise & carrying the spent gases to the tail (Or somewhere along the side, if you want you system laid-out that way!) of the car. This is another tip from Mr. Vizard.


Go beyond the "bolt-on".
Re: FAQ - Custom exhaust set up
Monday, October 05, 2009 7:31 PM
If you check out the Cherry bomb Extreme muffler it offers a single inlet dual outlet when I first installed it I cut the cat out and put in place of them pipe the rest via one outlet, closed the second with a make-shift cap( cut the bottom off a Spray paint can and used a screw type clamp) When I was driving around the streets daily I kept it that way and when I wanted to rip I removed the second cap and doubled the flow!! Also when I did my downpipe the first time I did a manual cut out right from the header with the opening going down, sounds nasty but best flow for maxxing out boost.



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