lookin good thanks a lot karo


i'll install these soon and see if degree'ing the stock cams won't yield a bit more power (mr. wenzel clued me in to this btw)



also karo if you need hi res pictures for the website lemme know i can email these to you





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Yeah, lets just make sure we bolt these ones down when we're done this time, k?




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Sweet...can you post as much detailed info as possible after you install and tune...I'm curious about what tuning changes you make and what advance/retard you settle on, as well as what it does to performance.

Pretty..... now lets find out how much these puppy's help out.

Okay, I got a lot of bolt ons, Cams, and Tuned. How much would the cam gears help me? Power wise? I thought HPT could tune the car's timing? I can't remember now. If I install the gears, get re-tuned, how much power is it going to give me? Just want to know if the mod is really worth it right now (2.4L intake mani is next)


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Cam timing and ignition timing are two completely different things. And cam timing is not something to be screwing with unless you have a very very good understanding of how it works. It depends on what cam you are running. Someone (Wenzel maybe?) dynoed gains with the stock cams by changing the advance/retard of the intake/exhaust cams, but probably not enough to justify the cost. If you are running cams that are meant to be set to a certain mechanical advance/retard point, then these will be necessary. But in all honesty, its not something the average tuner should even be worrying about.




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JerseyJayLN2 (Scarab) wrote:If you are running cams that are meant to be set to a certain mechanical advance/retard point, then these will be necessary. But in all honesty, its not something the average tuner should even be worrying about.

This is kinda true for N/A builds, but for turbo builds, adj cam gears can noticably affect boost threshold/spool time, and top end power, espcially if your working with an oversized or undersized turbo, respectively.

so what brand are they? or did karo actually make a set?



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They are GM gears.



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I am in the market for a built ecotec head (LSJ Or L61 - looks more like L61 at this point), new supertech valvetrain, stage 3 cams, +1mm ferrea valves. I am all motor, still not sure if I need ADJ cam gears to get more power in the top end or overall. Buy a set? or wait till I got boost?


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If I recall correctly GM recommended a specific intake advance, and exhaust retard like they did for the quad 4...in one of the ecotec build books.




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Thanks. I'll check the build book as I have one.


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In the book I have, didn't find that information... I have a set of GM Racing gears. I hope the tuner or the shop for that matter knows how to play around with the cam timing, I'd hate to put them in and do nothing with them - they are going in regardless since I have them! Anyone have any info on how they set up their adjustable cam gears?

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Can you even get adjustable cams anymore?



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You mean adjustable cam gears?? Never heard of an adjustable camshaft? Yes, you can buy them from GMPARTSDIRECT.com or from SMG Motoring.


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02ECOTECIMPORTKILLER wrote:You mean adjustable cam gears?? Never heard of an adjustable camshaft? Yes, you can buy them from GMPARTSDIRECT.com or from SMG Motoring.

yeah I meant gears, I don't know why I didn't type that. okay cool. I want some to run with my comp turbo cams to play with when I go standalone ecu



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Good idea. I want to extract more power from the cams, down low. IT should allow me to move the power curve around in the RPM band.


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