Does anyone know if I can put a 2.0L supercharged cobalt engine in my 04 Cavalier? My 2.2L ecotec got flooded with water and the insurance company is paying for a replacement and I was wondering if this engine would would with no mods or very little
Why would it not? Its a destroked 2.2L eco. Should fit the same way your old engine did.
1 boost fourm , 2 SEARCH (even though most posts have been here asking if its possible)
but info with 1 of the problems is in boost
Shifted wrote:Im better than u lowfire wrote:Why would it not? Its a destroked 2.2L eco. Should fit the same way your old engine did.
You really need to stop spreading misinformation
You really need to start giving proper info.
As far as i know, its the same engine, just destroked. Which coincides with previous information on the org, By you, and several So-called experts in the field.
Do a search, you will find more then sufficient info to prove BOTH WAYS.
Well, I have done some searches and havn't really found to much either way.
No one has taken a 2.0 and put it in there cavi? Would I need to get a tranny from the cobalt or would the my tranny work with it?
Im better than u lowfire wrote:Shifted wrote:Im better than u lowfire wrote:Why would it not? Its a destroked 2.2L eco. Should fit the same way your old engine did.
You really need to stop spreading misinformation
You really need to start giving proper info.
As far as i know, its the same engine, just destroked. Which coincides with previous information on the org, By you, and several So-called experts in the field.
Do a search, you will find more then sufficient info to prove BOTH WAYS.
It IS a destroked version of the 2.2, but I never said it would fit. Its also a fly-by-wire engine, so the amount of mods just to get the PCM, pedal sensors, etc into the engine bay means it doesn't "fit like the old engine".
OP-
Yes, you would need the 2.0 transmission, axles, and then figure out a way to get it to work in the cavalier since the cobalt is wider than the J's.
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I'm sure you COULD use the regular 2.2 eco getrag, as the bolt pattern will be the same, and it's designed for use in the J-body, but no LSD, and not as strong, different gear ratio's, etc. The real problem to work around is the throttle by wire, as shifted said.
15.3 @ 89.97mph, 14's on the way?
There is more to it then you want to deal with, including changing the oil pan so you can have a lower mount, the Oil cooler will not fir with the cavalier transmission, a myriad of problems, just got done trying to do it, trust me put a fresh engine in and save for a SC kit.
use the search button , i really do not want to type out a box of info
NO YOU CAN NOT USE THE COBALT TRANS IN THE J-BODIES
do a search? search for what?
@!#$ retards, theres hardly any real info on this subject beyond what airtonics posted
to run the engine you need the wiring harness off a redline or cobalt ss as well as the PCM, then you can run the drive by wire TB, also you need a redline flywheel and clutch as the stock eco 2.2 does not bolt up, im told the tranny and axles work, not sure about motor mounts
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only thing i see in those posts is misinformation and morons whining to use the search button
1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85
Shifted wrote:Im better than u lowfire wrote:Shifted wrote:Im better than u lowfire wrote:Why would it not? Its a destroked 2.2L eco. Should fit the same way your old engine did.
You really need to stop spreading misinformation
You really need to start giving proper info.
As far as i know, its the same engine, just destroked. Which coincides with previous information on the org, By you, and several So-called experts in the field.
Do a search, you will find more then sufficient info to prove BOTH WAYS.
It IS a destroked version of the 2.2, but I never said it would fit. Its also a fly-by-wire engine, so the amount of mods just to get the PCM, pedal sensors, etc into the engine bay means it doesn't "fit like the old engine".
OP-
Yes, you would need the 2.0 transmission, axles, and then figure out a way to get it to work in the cavalier since the cobalt is wider than the J's.
thank you for the clarification.
sounds like you need the cobalt computers too cuz the crank sensor markings are different. Sounds like a LOT of trouble.
basically no one has done this swap yet. not that i heard of anyway. youd be the first
and besides you can get a 2.2 ecotec, put on a turbo and get more power out of that then you would from a Slowbalt SS motor
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and it will bust apart in the long run, unlike the 2.0 motor which is made for handling boost
1989 Turbo Trans Am #82, 2007 Cobalt SS G85
wow..havnt seen THIS kind of post before..no one uses the search button anymore do they
I'm going to bitch slap the next person who suggests using the search button. Until YOU have personally compiled a FAQ on a subject, just let it go. It's a new topic, that has never been done, it's assinine to say that all that can be said has already been said on a topic like this.
15.3 @ 89.97mph, 14's on the way?
USE THE GAWD DAM SEARCH BUTTON
I EVEN INCLUDED A LINK
ive posted most of the needed to know info , even if there was a FAQ the dumb ass posters still wouldnt fawking look
Im better than u lowfire wrote:Shifted wrote:Im better than u lowfire wrote:Why would it not? Its a destroked 2.2L eco. Should fit the same way your old engine did.
You really need to stop spreading misinformation
You really need to start giving proper info.
As far as i know, its the same engine, just destroked. Which coincides with previous information on the org, By you, and several So-called experts in the field.
Do a search, you will find more then sufficient info to prove BOTH WAYS.
You guys realy do need to listen to the guy with the factory tube frame sunfire, Hes a master at this stuff
Get the 2.4L eco, what is it like 175hp?
Myles wrote:Get the 2.4L eco, what is it like 175hp?
its drive by wire. problem there.
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I have 1/2 of Cobalt motor in my Cavy well the head.
It is not that easy but not as hard as you guys are making it seem.
You simply use your intake manifold and your old TB and you don't have to worry about that damn drive by wire @!#$.
About the oil cooler I don't know if tranny would get in the way or anything, why would it.
Cam angle sensor does hit the brake master cylinder.
You need to modify the IDI cover to fit the head casue we cannot run sequential spark.
It might interfere that Cobalt LSJ bottom is a 60-2 and L61 is 7X crank wheel.
The way our ECU will try to pick it up.
Work around the tranny and make new axles. Big deal.
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I believe you're better off just to get the GM S/C kit. Then you have a 2.2.... with boost, and it's not drive-by-wire.
