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Venolia pistons
Sunday, February 12, 2006 8:59 PM
anyone know the product number for 8:5 venolia pistons or a link.. thanks

Re: Venolia pistons
Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:50 PM
What motor? It helps if you fill out your profile as well if you're refering to yourself needing the pistons.

I personally have never heard anyone around here have or mention anything about Venolia pistons...most use Wiseco or JE if anything.

By the way, here is their website: http://www.venolia.com/



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Re: Venolia pistons
Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:57 PM
2.4l .... they dont list by make model....
Re: Venolia pistons
Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:01 PM
Roy Hernandez wrote:2.4l .... they dont list by make model....


I'm not even sure if they make them for the 2.4, I believe they are more import related or atleast in the magazines they talk more torwards imports.

If you really need some pistons and you want it that low of 8.5:1 or any other compression, contact Karo @ Car Customs and he can get them for you.



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Re: Venolia pistons
Monday, February 13, 2006 12:48 AM
Event has those in his car. Flat toped too



Re: Venolia pistons
Monday, February 13, 2006 12:50 AM
KEN 2.2 wrote:Event has those in his car. Flat toped too


Really? That's news to me...



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Re: Venolia pistons
Monday, February 13, 2006 1:09 AM
Hmmm.... lets see here... who uses Venolia pistons for the 2.4...

WrenchMonkey (Formerly ChangeForAButton's car)
Mike Karas


And for the 2.2...
Event (as mentioned above)
Adler
Major
Tony Gibson (if anybody remembers him)






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Re: Venolia pistons
Monday, February 13, 2006 6:16 AM
Cavalier Connection, now J-Tuners, also had about 20 sets of Venolia pistons for the 2.2. I went with Venolia because of the price, they were able to make and ship the pistons sooner than anyone else, and they held up to the abuse on Mike Karas's 2.4.


275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!

Re: Venolia pistons
Monday, February 13, 2006 12:15 PM
ohh .. would you know which ones does mike have ? what part number. and whats the difference between wiseco and venolia .. just price ?
Re: Venolia pistons
Monday, February 13, 2006 3:32 PM
I dont know the part #. Try calling up there and have them look up his specs. I think the pistons had a compression ratio around 8:5:1.

I have heard that Venolia makes one of the most "heaviest" pistons.




275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!

Re: Venolia pistons
Monday, February 13, 2006 6:23 PM
I will be ordering from them also. I sent in my specs sheet and all and just waiting for a phone call back. By the way, Rocky (cookie monster); for those j-body retro guys out there will know who I am talking about, has them in his car also. Can't remember how much power it made, but was fast then.





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Re: Venolia pistons
Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:42 AM
He had them with the 2.4 Sc on his 2.3 right?



Gilles
2.3 Ho

Re: Venolia pistons
Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:48 PM
Shifted wrote:Hmmm.... lets see here... who uses Venolia pistons for the 2.4...

WrenchMonkey (Formerly ChangeForAButton's car)
Mike Karas


And for the 2.2...
Event (as mentioned above)
Adler
Major
Tony Gibson (if anybody remembers him)


Thanks Shifted...

Adler wrote:I dont know the part #. Try calling up there and have them look up his specs. I think the pistons had a compression ratio around 8:5:1.

I have heard that Venolia makes one of the most "heaviest" pistons.


They seemed lighter then the Wiseco pistons that SpeedRacerZ put in his block

hmmmm......




Re: Venolia pistons
Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:03 PM
Wrench Monkey wrote:
They seemed lighter then the Wiseco pistons that SpeedRacerZ put in his block
hmmmm......

I was actually told by two techs from Total Seal not to go with Venolia because they make one of the heaviest pistons out there.
I have also heard that the Venolia pistons expand less than most other forged pistons.


275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!

Re: Venolia pistons
Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:09 PM
....But they are sure are shiney




275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!

Re: Venolia pistons
Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:16 PM
Adler how much did you pay for those pistons you got there??? I just want to compare the price that Dale @ Venolia gave me, if you don't mind.






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Re: Venolia pistons
Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:00 PM
Those were $350 back in May of 2003....3.524 inch pistons, pin fit, pin oilers, spiral locks, offset pin holes, and .812 X 2.500 full floating wrist pins (larger than stock for the 2.2).
For some reason Mike's 2.4 pistons that he bought from Venolia in 2001 were cheaper than the 2.2s that I bought 2 years later. I know that his pistons didnt have those 3 grooves along the side of the skirt. Or maybe I had more options added to my pistons than his.


275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!

Re: Venolia pistons
Tuesday, February 14, 2006 6:17 PM
I have them....first ones ever made for a jbody....i sent my stock pistons to them for them to make.....
Re: Venolia pistons
Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:37 PM
hurmmm something else.. why is getting a lower compression pistons better ? i see my brothers srt4 running 8.1:1 (2.4L) and my brothers in laws wrx sti is 8.2:1(2.5L).
Re: Venolia pistons
Tuesday, February 14, 2006 7:46 PM
Lower compression is better for boosted application's.


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Re: Venolia pistons
Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:10 PM
Roy Hernandez wrote:hurmmm something else.. why is getting a lower compression pistons better ? i see my brothers srt4 running 8.1:1 (2.4L) and my brothers in laws wrx sti is 8.2:1(2.5L).


lower compression is better for boost because it allows you to use lower octane gas.. the effective compression ratio isn't as high which means no detonation with lower octane gas.
it is also easy to tune the air/fuel and timing with lower compression. also the lost power from the lower compression can be made up with higher boost pressure. (but this also increases effective compression ratio, so you got to be careful with the fuel being used)

higher compression is going to give you more low end torque. it also will give you near the same amount of power with less boost, but consquently its harder to tune and gives you higher EGT's





Re: Venolia pistons
Tuesday, February 14, 2006 8:23 PM
Adler wrote:
Wrench Monkey wrote:
They seemed lighter then the Wiseco pistons that SpeedRacerZ put in his block
hmmmm......

I was actually told by two techs from Total Seal not to go with Venolia because they make one of the heaviest pistons out there.
I have also heard that the Venolia pistons expand less than most other forged pistons.
I've actually heard that they expand more than most...
Also, I believe Weisco pistons are forged steel, not aluminum, hence the weight.




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Re: Venolia pistons
Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:39 AM
OHV notec wrote:
Adler wrote:
Wrench Monkey wrote:
They seemed lighter then the Wiseco pistons that SpeedRacerZ put in his block
hmmmm......

I was actually told by two techs from Total Seal not to go with Venolia because they make one of the heaviest pistons out there.
I have also heard that the Venolia pistons expand less than most other forged pistons.
I've actually heard that they expand more than most...
Also, I believe Weisco pistons are forged steel, not aluminum, hence the weight.


Maybe I heard that they expand more than most other forged. Its been 3 years so forgive me. But I am forsure that Total Seal said that Venolia makes heaviest.


275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!

Re: Venolia pistons
Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:40 AM
....makes one of the most heaviest.



275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!

Re: Venolia pistons
Wednesday, February 15, 2006 1:46 PM
hurmmmmm... one more thing i see that there is pistons that you have to bore your block .020 or .040 over what is this for ? does it have to do anything with the compression ratio ? for example is it possible to have an 8:5 compression with .020 over or even just stock bore ? sorry ive read but i really dont oderstand what the bigger bore is for ... .
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