On ebay they have short shifters for like 40 something shipped. How hard is this to install does any one have these?What do you guys think?
darkblade j
I don't really trust e-bay when it comes to performance stuff...
A fidanza short shifter would run about 70 bucks I believe...
Contact Aaron at Turbo Tech Racing...he'll give you a good deal on a B & M Short Shifter.
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www.kronosperformance.com / 732-742-8837
I bought two from www.cosmoracing.com, one for me and one for a friend. I was quite pleased with their product. Seemed to be well made and both have been in cars for two years now without a problem. Installation was relatively easy and took about 60 to 90 minutes. I think the price is around $50.00.
I bought mine off ebay...no problems...called jdm short throw...love it....just make sure you lube her up good.
wtf do you need a dremel for? And yea it looks(jdm one) ok my main question was about the installation.
darkblade j
Also what kinda grease do you use?
darkblade j
darkbladej wrote:wtf do you need a dremel for? And yea it looks(jdm one) ok my main question was about the installation.
It's 95-99 model that need it because they have to cut a hole... (correct me if I'm wrong)
I got my short shifter off of e-bay. It's an almost exact knock off of the B&M, and I love it!!!
The only differences I can tell is the shifter knob is ungodly heavy for what it is, and the cast blue pin on the B&M is chrome on this one.
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I have the B&M. I am assuming this is going on the ecotec because of your profile. I use the how to that LD9 Fury posted above. It was very easy. (for the eco) nothing has to be cut or fabricated.
The only thing is on the side to side actuator arm that comes off the stick, you know, the little arm with the little ball, i had to use my stock little clip on thingy that goes on top the little ball of the shifter, cause the diameter of the one with the B&M kit was just a tad to big. But who cars?
Its really my favorite mod. I can enjoy it in every driving situation!
Rob Smith wrote:The only thing is on the side to side actuator arm that comes off the stick, you know, the little arm with the little ball, i had to use my stock little clip on thingy that goes on top the little ball of the shifter, cause the diameter of the one with the B&M kit was just a tad to big.
It'll fit, I just installed mine last Saturday. It seemed like it was going to be too big, but if you're able to get it lined up straight with the hole, it'll go in with a little persuasion.
I got mine for my 2K from Cosmo Racing but I had to do some work on it to make it work with the reverse lockout right...
The problem is that the arm is manufactured the wrong way. By that I mean that the point that is supposed to hit the stopper a keep you from entering reverse is pointed forward rather than backward. This means you can get 1/2 to 3/4 of the way into reverse before it makes contact. Most of the Ebay shifters have this problem from what I can see of thier product shots...
To rememdy this I brazed a piece of steel about 1/2-3/4 CM thick/deep onto the backside. This allowed the arm to make contact before it started to enter reverse.
I recommend the day you go to do the install that you inspect the arm on your new shifter and compare it to the old one. You will probably see what I mean. I'll try to post some pics of mine later today for you to see what I am talking about.
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Yeah just support the companies that steal from the companies that actually research, test and sell the correct part for our cars. Go with the B&M.
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I believe it's called Capitalism... and if the charged a decent price for the product I think more people would be willing to buy them... Plu show much research does B&M put into a shifter... don't they simply "steal" the stock specs and shorten it?
Just my 2 cents...
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i would recomment cutting the stock shifter down and threading it for an aftermarket knob.
B&M develops and designs each shifter they make, far from cutting the stock one down. That would only make it a short shift, not a short throw anyway. I think B&M charges a decent price for theres. One day, the real parts producers with stop making parts because of the copy cats, then what will you buy? I know if nobody else will back me up on this, Karo will. Maybe he will put his USEFUL 2 cents in.
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Silver_00ZED24 wrote:I believe it's called Capitalism... and if the charged a decent price for the product I think more people would be willing to buy them... Plu show much research does B&M put into a shifter... don't they simply "steal" the stock specs and shorten it?
Just my 2 cents...
here's my two cents: you're an idiot.
I'm sure they employ some sort of reverse engineering, take apart the stock shifter, and then make it better. You obviously haven't driven a J with a B&M, nothing was 'stolen' from GM dirtbag...
What does a B&M go for down inthe US? Up here in Canada they are more than $150 CDN... to me that is a little outragous. I realise they make small modifications to the design but for the most part there isn't a while lot they can change for the 2K+ shifter. The lower arm can be lengthened and the upper arm can be shortened. Correct me if I am wrong but other than that everything else is basically stock specs, is it not?
I do agree that the copycats will ruin the manufacturers with thier knock offs but to my knowledge the only resolution would be to outlaw the copycats... I believe it is called Patenting... I'm not sure why B&M hasn't gone after the Copycats to recoup losses due to them "pirating" thier designs but that is their decision.
Unfortunately until they do that and bring the parts down a reasonable price (sub $100 CDN) I'll buy the copycats... But that is just me... I have nothing against people who pay full price... If they would rather pay $100 more than me for something like a shifter I'm perfectly ok with that and so should they.
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Silver_00ZED24 wrote:I believe it's called Capitalism... and if the charged a decent price for the product I think more people would be willing to buy them... Plu show much research does B&M put into a shifter... don't they simply "steal" the stock specs and shorten it?
Just my 2 cents...
I completely agree.
Personally, I will be purchasing the fidanza becaust it is significantly cheaper than the B&M.
My ploy is for quality. i don't know what materials the others are made of, nor their quaility tolerance. The knockoffs are most likely drop forged, while the B&M pieces are machined.
Quality parts companies will not go out of business because they provide a quality product, and those who can afford them will purchase them, those who don't would be more likely to cut their stock shifters than to purchase an alternative. So for all intensive purposes they havn't lost any market share.
-Chris
cmunn99gt wrote:Silver_00ZED24 wrote:I believe it's called Capitalism... and if the charged a decent price for the product I think more people would be willing to buy them... Plu show much research does B&M put into a shifter... don't they simply "steal" the stock specs and shorten it?
Just my 2 cents...
here's my two cents: you're an idiot.
I'm sure they employ some sort of reverse engineering, take apart the stock shifter, and then make it better. You obviously haven't driven a J with a B&M, nothing was 'stolen' from GM dirtbag...
WOW people get really touchy on here... I used a poor wording there... I should not have said stolen... but they do use the basics from the GM shifter... on a 2K unlike a 95-99 the short throw shifter is a ball and stick... nothing more... It is not like the 95-99 where you get a whole new assembly.
So I appoligize if you feel that my saving some money is wrong.
You are right however and I have never driven a car with a B&M SS. I will see who near me has one and try to take a spin with it to see the differences. Maybe then I will see what you are so passionate about....
Again sorry I apparently offended you!!!
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