anyone bought one of these?.. If so, what did you think of the quality and power?
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I am going with one of these... but its being fully built with every thing you can think of to run with 20-25psi of boost.... that company has a GOOD! rep.. i would trust any thing that comes from them...
The First Twin Charged jbody
blue car (R.I.P) - 240whp @7psi..
silver car - 305whp 315lbs.tq @15psi (91 Octane) or 420whp & 425lbs.TQ @20psi (94 octane+Alcohol Injection)
All dynos run on a Mustang dyno
I built Black's LD9 for a fraction of the price bro.
2002 Z28: Slp coldair Pac, Corsa Catback, 3200 stall
I like what JBP is doing, but they are too far away from me. I might have Race-Shop build my motor for me since they are an hour away
Jason
99 Z24
Racers Edge
Johnny Mack Turbo Systems
Engineered Performance
wow what a rip O_O. my engine was half that price to build, and my head is ported and completely forged. only thing i have stock anymore is cams.
http://www.cardomain.com/id/StylezTA
This is the same set up i will be going with..I live in Florida and once i get the money im going up there personally and ordering my motor...why? you may ask? cause theres no one in my area that does good engine work and with this motor, it will come rebuilt and done and all you have to do is drop out your old motor and put this one in...yeah ill be spending the cash that some may think is stupid but i'd rather have a fully rebuilt brand new motor with no miles on it rather than have the motor i drove on and then rebuilt..thats just my two sense. i plan on boosting the motor also..
i drop by there pretty often and took some pictures of one of the complete build they were sending out. they said it was good for 220hp N/A. there were 5 ld9s on the go! i am seriously considering getting one since the quality looks good, and they said they've sold over 30 of these engines, so someones gotta speak up. sorry about the size, but here's the pics:
so nice.
gotta get me one of these
they look good, i have their cams and throttle body combo, but i want an opinion on a runner before i dish out the dough.
crap, same picture twice. sorry, i dont know how to edit messages.
that looks absolutely amazing..thats exactly why im getting one of these
97blkZ24 wrote:wow what a rip O_O. my engine was half that price to build, and my head is ported and completely forged. only thing i have stock anymore is cams.
The price for what I would want (forged rods and pistons and some other goodies). The whole motor comes to just over 4 grand USD. That's actually not that bad considering the qualtiy. Don't forget that the $3700 USD price tag has roughly an $800 core charge built in. That would put a stock rebuilt engine at $2900, which is right on par with local rebuilders. I'd be adding a little over $1100 in options though........I'll never have that kind of money for this car, lol.
thats not that expensive
-Borsty
Josh F wrote:I am going with one of these... but its being fully built with every thing you can think of to run with 20-25psi of boost.... that company has a GOOD! rep.. i would trust any thing that comes from them...
What reputation are we speaking of?
Can anyone show me a car with and engine that was built by them that has proven decent #s?
30 engines and I have never heard anything myself??????
Any idea who the engine in the picture is for? Maybe we can follow up with that person
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That engine is beautiful!!!!
Now I'm gonna be a blaspheming dickhead and say...
$3000-$4000 on this motor, and even more to have it stuffed in
OR
$3000-$4000 down-payment on a brand new car to mod and get a fresh start with something better than a j-body in every way (not hard to find LOL!). Maybe keep the J-Body as a beater while u mod your new 98-2002 Z28 Camaro you bought with that $4000 down-payment?
Not to mention, after you spend 4 big ones to pull out your 120,000-mile engine for this totally kick-ass JBP engine effective up to "220HP N/A"... you still have a 120,000-mile transmission that would likely take a gigantic crap before your new engine is even broken-in... especially at 220HP or whatever.
I love JBP, their products, their service, and everything they stand for (Up Yours RSM Racing!!!) but think about this: How far are you willing to go for just a Cavalier or Sunfire?!
The irony is that I would get this engine in a heartbeat! And even if the old-ass tranny took a dump soon after and I had to totally get a new one for a few thousand more bucks, I would do it! But that's only because...
I know I'm going to have my Cavalier for a long time, so the cost is worth it.
Think about that.
LD9 Fury! wrote:That engine is beautiful!!!!
Now I'm gonna be a blaspheming dickhead and say...
$3000-$4000 on this motor, and even more to have it stuffed in
OR
$3000-$4000 down-payment on a brand new car to mod and get a fresh start with something better than a j-body in every way (not hard to find LOL!). Maybe keep the J-Body as a beater while u mod your new 98-2002 Z28 Camaro you bought with that $4000 down-payment?
i disagree of course, i think cavys and sunfires are very cheap to buy which means more cash for mods. i honestly wouldnt buy any other kind of car at the moment because a 12 or 13 second car is a 12 or 13 second car anyway that you look at it regaurdless of the car model. its like people who go buy srt-4's for example brag on what they run stock, you may run high 13's stock but someone with lets say a sunfire runs high 13's they earned it in my mind, i just dont see why you would wanna go any buy a car with a good amount of power because thats all factory, you have no sense of pride in your work as most people with a j-body have cause they modded their cars themselves. maybe im the only one but i have more respect for people who ive seen has worked to get their car to a certian point rather than crediting some kid who just bought a sports car that already runs quick
1- Look, didn't I say I'd buy this thing in a heartbeat? Yes I did. So obviously I think the same way you do. Spend money, time, effort, gain knowledge, and make a bitchin car out of nothing! With a whole lot of scraped knuckles in the process.
2- The reason I'm keeping my cavy for a long time is for the exact reasons you said.
3- Are you saying that another car, like the Camaro I used as an example, can't be respected and can't earn you pride? Get your 15-sec j-body into the 13's and 12's is a major accomplishment... getting a 13-sec Camaro into the 11's and 10's is also a major accomplishment. That's why I said QUOTE: "...while u
MOD your new car".
***The entire purpose of this post was to get people to think! Dropping 4 Grand on bitchin engine doesn't pay off if you're not gonna keep the car long enuff to enjoy it. Cuz j-bodies come and go like popcorn at a movie theater. Also, investing that much money in an engine gives you a great engine... but that's it. I wanted everyone to think about the fact that there's a hell of a lot more to modding than just a totally bitchin engine and being totally poor from it with potentially little of no major or long-run pay-off.
Overall, I saw that this engine was a huge investment for just one general aspect of the car, and that everyone needs to consider the pros and cons of the whole situation.
I just wanted everyone to
think instead of just blindly taking the plunge.
I did not, however, ask for you to misinterpret what I said, add in your own erroneous / irrelevant comments, make it sound like I thought buying a fast un-modded car is cooler and more respectable than doing your own work to make a car fast, and potentially begin a flame-fest for no reason.
Believe me buddy, we were on the same page the whole time. No hard feelings about the misinterpretation.
Kyle Strosnider wrote:that looks absolutely amazing..thats exactly why im getting one of these
Looks like an engine that was taken apart and painted. From those pics it is impossible to tell if anything has been done to the engine, you just have to assume there is work done. Nice paint job though....
Mark P.
I tell ya I wish I had 5 motors lined up to build for that price, i wouldnt have to work. I am an engine builder so I would never have someone build what I can easily do myself. And for that price you should be gettin full ARP hardware, everything done ballzed out.
2002 Z28: Slp coldair Pac, Corsa Catback, 3200 stall
sayen there is a one year warranty on these motors so if you tune the engine and tweak it out with some boost and somethin happens, then you know that the work is not done and you call them back about the problem but..anyone can spend money and say oh the work is not done just by looking at it..ive talked to these guys and they dont seem like they would screw some one over. just my 2 sense
Mark Pain wrote:Kyle Strosnider wrote:that looks absolutely amazing..thats exactly why im getting one of these
Looks like an engine that was taken apart and painted. From those pics it is impossible to tell if anything has been done to the engine, you just have to assume there is work done. Nice paint job though....
Mark P.
lol. thats just crazy if they just take an engine apart and paint it. they have a rep, they wouldnt do that.
i just wanna know if someones' running the engines and is willing to speak up.
Henry Mac,
i have talked to them personally on the phone and there is a guy in DC (dont know his name) but he is pushing about 265 whp Naturally Aspirated and thats with a piggyback....thats all i know of..like you said, these guys have a good rep..i would trust them about these crate motors
Henry Mac wrote:Mark Pain wrote:Kyle Strosnider wrote:that looks absolutely amazing..thats exactly why im getting one of these
Looks like an engine that was taken apart and painted. From those pics it is impossible to tell if anything has been done to the engine, you just have to assume there is work done. Nice paint job though....
Mark P.
lol. thats just crazy if they just take an engine apart and paint it. they have a rep, they wouldnt do that.
i just wanna know if someones' running the engines and is willing to speak up.
My point is that the look of the engine is pointles and that is all we have to go by based on the pics. I don't see a build sheet, flow charts, or a parts lost. From the pic it is an engine with a paint job.
Mark P.
Kyle Strosnider wrote:Henry Mac,
i have talked to them personally on the phone and there is a guy in DC (dont know his name) but he is pushing about 265 whp Naturally Aspirated and thats with a piggyback....thats all i know of..like you said, these guys have a good rep..i would trust them about these crate motors
Post some pics, a dyno sheet, and some qtr times.
I cannot put any faith in a phone conversation.
I call BS on the 265whp.
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